Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Now that's a wedding ..... !

The Bobover Rebbe dancing at his son's wedding
The son of the Bobover Rebbe marries, in Brooklyn, some amazing photos and videos - here is the Mitzvah Tanz [mitzvah dance] - the rest can be found here: CrownHeights.info


18 comments:

Anonymous said...

How beautiful!!

Klishlishi said...

Despite their numbers, "the Haredim are IRRELEVANT!" (to quote Rav Meir Kahane )!!

Politically and Geulah-wise, one group of "Hilltop Girls" at Migron are of more influence in the world and of heroic value in Hashem's eyes than all the Haredim PUT TOGETHER (including Chabad)!

Leah said...

klishlishi,
You have aright to your opinion - no matter how lacking in proper understanding it is. Only Hashem has the authority and insight to make such claims.
I am looking at your comment and thinking you may have had a falling out with one of the two sects of jewish groups that you mention or may have heard ugly things about them. I caution you not judge though... We are all jews....

eengerish said...

what a huge crowed!
its a real kidush hashem everytime theres big gatherings by jews!
how nice!

Klishlishi said...

"Most rabbis in the generation before the Moshiach will be of the Erev Rav" (Divrei Chayim). There is also the Erev Katan ie Orthodox Jews who keep all the mitzvos and who believe in Hashem, yet nevertheless act contrary to His Will, and are even viewed as being His enemies c.f. the ultra-frum High Priest Shevna and his followers, who were in the majority against King Hezekiah, in wanting to cede gold and parts of Israel to placate Sancherev on grounds of "pikuach nefesh", yet were labelled as a keher reshoyim by Hashem Himself - just like 90% of today's Haredim, who are also still prepared in principle to hand over parts of Eretz Yisrael "to save lives". Notice that most Haredim & their leaders supported the 1993 Israel-PLO Oslo suicide pact, and that not one black-garbed Haredi demonstrated against the 2005 Gaza Deportation of 10,000 Jews. If even 50,000 Haredim had joined the demos, the Hitnatkut would never have happened. Instead they just sat with their velvet yarmulkes and munched cholent even as their knitted-kippot "troublesome settler" bretheren were being carted out of their homes.

Devorah said...

Klishlishi said: .... the Erev Katan ie Orthodox Jews who keep all the mitzvos and who believe in Hashem, yet nevertheless act contrary to His Will, and are even viewed as being His enemies

Here is an example of the Erev Katan at work: Modesty Patrol Lynched Me

efraim said...

the Haredim are precious beloved brothers . My brothers are better than me.

Anonymous said...

efraim is right.

Fangyu said...

That is absolutely beautiful! Baruch HaShem.

Fofo said...

honestly its a touching video but coming from a religious sephardi world, this kind of rebbe worship, and the central placing of an authoritative figure is very forieng to ME, and forein to the judaism pre 15th century. we just did NOT have this kind of judaism back then no matter what you think and have been fed.

it borders and many times crosses over to christian like, but devorah will likely disagree and delete this comment.

Devorah said...

Fofo: I don't delete comments I disagree with, I delete comments because they occasionally border on abuse or lashon hara.

By referring to it as ''Rebbe worship'', you give the impression that you know what you are talking about, and therefore cast a shadow of doubt over the whole thing. It is not Worship, it is esteem and respect shown to the leader of their group.

You would do well to adopt some of that respectful attitude when leaving comments, and perhaps more of them could be printed.

10rainbow said...

very true devorah. just because we honor and respect our parents does not mean we worship them. the same honor and respect we give our teachers. as chazal said, our parents bring us into this world, the rabbis prepare us for the next world. if G-d forbid we have to choose between saving a parent and rabbi, we should choose to save the teacher under those circumstances.although its written as such i feel such a situation has never been placed before anyone. xtian worship is different. a woman becomes pregnant by a man, then she claims or teh texts claim G-d made her pregnant. and they worship both the son and mother. we honor our teachers.we respect their guidance. we stand up when we see them. even the moabite king stood up when gideon (i believe its gideon, do correct me if i am wrong) told him he has a message from G-d. and for that one gesture, ruth came via him. the moabite gave honor to G-d by stand up when the messenger spoke, how much more must we give honor to the messengers of G-d, after having studied so much under them, knowing the laws and understanding its meaning.

DrM said...

I beg to differ. They obviously haven't let you, a female, in their ceremonies and tishes. I've been many times. anyone who is familiar with chsssidic way of life will understand me. The amount of attention, devotion, and blind allegence is very priest like. And underheard of before centuries ago other than in Christian communities. I would give you examples what really what's the point?

Devorah said...

Sefardim behave similarly, for example before he was killed,Baba Elazar ztl was thought by many of his followers to be Moshiach ben Yosef.

But none of them forgot that Hashem created the world, and none of them prayed TO HIM.... or made an idol of him and bowed down before it .... and although we have a custom to pray at the graves of tzadikim, we still pray to Hashem, or we ask the tzaddik to intercede for us in Shamayim, believing that tzaddikim have greater influence in Heaven..... so to compare a Jew's connection with his Rebbe to Xtianity is not correct, and is in fact misleading and deceptive.

zahava said...

i have always had a question regarding davening at kivrei tzaddikim. if someone davens at a tzaddik's kever, asking for intercession in shamayim, how is that different from catholicism where people pray to their patron saints, asking for intercession, or even praying to their christ? their scriptures say, "no one comes to the father except through me." i can understand davening at the kever of a tzaddik, but not davening for his intercession.

Devorah said...

''Yakov lo meis'' - Yakov did not die.... in other words, tzadikim do not die [spiritually], their energy continues in this world after their passing. We can tap into it by praying at their graves, or even by learning their writings. This is why we pray at a kever, we pray to Hashem at the kever of a tzaddik, believing that the tzaddik has more influence in Shamayim than we do. In the same way that a person can receive a bracha from a Rebbe whilst they are living, they can also receive a bracha from a Rebbe after his passing.

I know it's true, from personal experience.

If someone chooses not to believe this, that is their option, I can't physically prove it to you. There are however thousands of miracle stories, even just from people writing a letter to a Rebbe who has passed.

Either you understand this, or you don't. There's no halfway point here.

Devorah said...

By the way, the Christians took it from the Jews, we are not copying them, they copied us. We do not acknowledge a tzaddik as God, as the Christians do for JC. Totally different. And for many people, their prayers are just as powerful as those of a tzaddik, but for many others who are desperate, this is where they turn for help, to the tzaddik, who does not ''die''.

Devorah said...

The Basis and Reason for praying at kivrei tzaddikim:

The Rema wrote in 'Hilchos Erev Rosh Hashana'[1]: "There are places where the custom is to go to graves and say many techinos there, and they give there tzedaka to the poor ('Kol Bo'). And the Mishna Brura there explains[2]: "As the cemetery is the place of rest of tzaddikim and prayer is more easily accepted there. But he should not aim his prayers at the dead[3], rather he should request from Hashem to have mercy on him in the merit[4] of the tzaddikim who are dwelling in the earth'. And the Rema writes the same regarding Erev Yom Kippur[5]: "There are places where the custom is to go to graves and give tzedaka".

In the 'Sefer Chassidim' of Rabbeinu Yehuda haChassid[6] it says: "The dead derive pleasure when their dear ones come to their graves and daven for the good of their souls, and this makes it better for them in that world, and also when requested from them they pray for those who are alive"[7].

And in the 'Mateh Ephraim'[8] it says: "It is a great zechus to daven at the graves of tzaddikim".

You can read more here:
http://meronlive.net/en/kivrei-tzaddikim