Sunday, November 25, 2012

Moishela: Very Soon There Will Be Another War

Discussion with Moishela (and his family) Part 10
A handicapped child
9 Kislev 5773 (Nov 22’12)

Very Soon There Will Be Another War
I’m sorry that I inconvenienced everyone so much to hear what I have to say tonight. But I truly believe that we are going into a very frightening dangerous time. Yesterday I wrote that no one should leave Eretz Yisroel (in discussion-part 9). There is no reason whatsoever, ever now to leave Eretz Yisroel. 

I’m sure that many who read what I said are very upset with this idea, but I must tell you clearly that I know what I’m talking about. And of course many people will go anyway and they’ll come back safe and sound and they’ll say, “Look, I went and I came back and everything is fine so the warning is a bunch of nonsense”. But I will tell you this, it’s not nonsense and in Shomayim there is a Kitrug on Am Yisroel, because Am Ysroel goes against a very important Halachah that is brought down in Gemara, that you’re NOT allowed to leave Eretz Yisroel Stam (for no valid Halachic reason) and when everybody flies off for vacations or for weddings, or for Bar Mitzvas, or to buy the Kallah her wardrobe, or to get a breath of fresh air, there is a very big Shailah (question) on all of these things. A person who is more Frum can find reasons for going. One of the biggest reasons is Parnassa, but so many of those that go for Parnassa, are exposed to the worst Pritzus in the world.

Air travel for example is very not Tzniusdik. Men and women gather in front of the toilets waiting. This is not very Tzniusdik. Men stand and Daven. Sometimes it’s so crowded when they Daven that they lean on the people sitting in the isles and many of those people are women, not to speak of the seating arrangements that are not always what we would like. People on airplanes sleep, especially when they go to America; the Frum and the non-Frum, and you can never know how you’ll see a woman sleeping, which is absolutely not Tzniusdik. And besides all the non-Frum with their skimpy outfits, and their giggling and their talking, it’s not for a Frum person to be exposed to, and a real Yid, a Shtarker (strong) Yid would never expose himself to that, and he would trust Hashem for his Parnassa.

This traveling back and forth will come to an end, an abrupt end. And when it happens there will be those stuck in foreign countries without a way to get back. I’m warning you in Shomayim it’s coming to the end, in Shomayim they are not willing any more to hear of such things.

There are also those who fly back and forth for family Simchas. They just wait for a family Simcha as an excuse to fly away. There are people that leave their children in all different homes, Erlicha (G-d fearing) homes and fly off to all the Simchas. But it’s improper to leave your children in strange homes, even if they are relatives unless there’s an excellent reason, flying off to a Bar Mitzvah or to a wedding is not an excellent reason.

A home that’s not the child’s home, could have a different level of Kashrus, could have different Minhagim in Tznius, and therefore it‘s not the thing to do at all. There are those who simply go for vacation to Italy to rest or maybe to The Alps for Pesach in a strictly Kosher LeMehadrin not Gebrox Hotel. However, how can it be that we suffered so much to leave Mitzrayim; we Davened so much to leave Mitzrayim and we leave Eretz Yisroel to go to Switzerland for Pesach? It’s absolutely horrific. It’s absolutely absurd. Then there are those that go to work for Parnassa. To work in Chutz Laaretz technically that’s allowed (Halachicly) but actually it’s better to stay here.

All this running from place to place only confuses the person. Travelling shakes a person up, and brings him out of his Seder. Can you really Daven on an airplane? The first few days you are in America can you really Daven or in England or in Europe or in Australia or wherever, can you really Daven? When you’re running from place to place can you really have closeness to HaKodosh Boruch Hu? It’s very hard.

A Jew needs a Seder. He has to get up everyday at a certain time, Daven at a certain time, eat at a certain time, and continue his day divided up between learning, maybe making a bit of Parnassa, and Davening. A person needs his place always; his usual regular place. He needs his place where he stands in the Shul and Davens. He needs that Seder in order that he should have a clear mind without confusion, but whoever likes the excitement of the confusion, can’t ever really get close to Hashem. That’s why our world today is full of confusion. We have every kind of fast food you can dream of with a Hechsher, a Mehadrin Hechsher. We have all kind of plays and shows on Chol Hamoed. We have all kind of trips for Avreichim and their wives, and it’s all to confuse us. Of course it’s not as bad as in America, where people hop off to Disney world, or Disney Land, or Epcot, or who knows what. But still it’s not the way it’s supposed to be. We’re confused and we’ve been getting away with it for a long time. But now the problem is that those young people who grew up in such a world can’t really be Yiddishe Mamas and Yiddishe Tattas because they don’t know how. They don’t know how to pass on the true Mesoras (tradition). Of course there are exceptions, but the exceptions are very small.

Most of the Olam have forgotten the feeling, the sensitivity of a Jewish heart, of a Jewish mind. They don’t understand why flying could be not Tzniusdik. They do not understand why having Pesach in Switzerland might not be appropriate. They don’t know why they can’t go to the Dead Sea, Pesach time to a hotel with the best Hechsher and non-Gebrox. They don’t understand why they cannot go swimming and come out of the pool and eat the tantalizing kosher L’Pesach food in their wet bathing suits. These people usually are very insistent that all the food should be Mehadrin non-Gebrox but they have no problem saying a Brocha in a bathing suit. In this kind of generation, what kind of children can it produce? What kind? Even those families that the children are seemingly more Frum than the parents, something is missing because that’s the way they were raised and even if they look much more Frum inside, they still go out for dinner and this brings to very terrible things.

In the United States people go out to eat dinner as I just said. What’s going out for dinner? They call it “quality time together”. They talk like the Goyim, in Israel it’s become the same. They need to get away from their Tzoros. They don’t go to Daven at the Kosel. They go out to eat in some place that tantalizes your taste buds and gives you some kind of Goyish atmosphere, all with a Hechsher. Even in Israel this definitely exists. Not only the Frum Americans that live here indulge in this, the Frum Israelis as well.

All these things are producing Yiddishe children that have lost the beauty of the Erlich Yiddishe Neshamah, lost the beauty of the Temimusdik face, lost the beauty of the soul, and this is the saddest part of this time in history. Once you could always find really Erlicha Yidden, but today most are only putting on a show. Most are only a bad imitation of what once was.

We have Chassidim that are very exact in all their Levush (dress code) short pants high socks Shtreimels. Have you seen the Shtreimels lately? It’s absolutely ridiculous. You could think it’s a clown’s hat. It’s so high that I don’t even know how they balance it on their heads, it’s absolutely ridiculous. Their clothes, the men’s’ clothes are often so tight that you can see the men’s’ bodies wiggling as they walk in the street. I can’t understand it. Men that were Chasidim in by gone years, in Europe and in America that had the courage to wear all the Levush in public even though non religious Jews and Goyim both obviously were angry at their appearance. They wore large coats, not clothes that show their bodies as they walk. However if someone today dares to go with clothing that seems to large they are branded with disdain as “Chanyok”. What happened to Am Yisroel?

The Litvish won’t get off the hook either. How many boys in Yeshivas are only worried about their hats, their ties, their suits, their shirts, and their cufflinks? Their cufflinks are a major problem for some of them. And when they go out with a girl, well, they have to know if she has good Middos, but they are not talking about the characteristics of the girl, if she is kind, if she is smart, if she is charitable. They are talking about the size of her dress. This is so sad, so very sad. This is not Yiddishkeit; it’s Goyishkeit. And I want to tell you that it’s going to stop. You can pat yourselves on the back from morning to night, and be sure that you are the best Jews around, that you are so close to Hashem, and that you learn very many hours. It’s all worth nothing, if you don’t have the spirit. If you don’t have the Pnimius, then it’s worth nothing. Hashem is going to stop it.

You saw what happened with Sandy? The Egel HaZahav got the brunt of the destruction. Just take away the electricity and we’re all in bad shape. We’re finished with our fancy ties. We’re finished with our fancy Shaitels. We’re finished with our tight dresses. We’re finished with our makeup. We’re finished with food and we’re finished with almost everything that keeps us alive. No electricity means we’re finished, Chas VeSholom!

So I suggest right now that you take stock of yourselves. See clearly how far away you have gotten, how far we’ve gotten in so short a time. Sixty years ago there were still some people that were really Erlich. Today you have to look for them with a magnifying glass. So this message is to prepare us. Remember what I said. We are doing things that are improper, and we think they are Kosher. We think that when we’re on an airplane and eat a Badatz meal, that we’re Kosher but we’re not. Because the whole thing is Traif. It’s all Traif. And you can go to any Rav and ask them and they will often say to you, “you can fly”. It’s just what is written about this generation; Pnai HaDor KePnai HaKelev.

Everyone is worried if you don’t let them do what they want, they may leave Yiddishkeit or they might become less observant. Well it’s not going to help to give them what they want. Hashem is going to make a Seder and everybody who is a real Yid is going to do Teshuva. It’s going to be hard, so start the process now. As I told you before, we’re in a dark tunnel already. There is only two little slivers of light left. We’re going into a great darkness. If you’re not going to be prepared, if you don’t really have a Jewish Neshamah and I’m not talking about Geray Tzedek, I’m talking about Erev Rav who are Jews from birth, if you don’t do Teshuva now, and you don’t straighten out your lives, then by the time Moshiach comes, I guess you won’t be around to greet him.

It’s very nice to talk about Sandy and to talk about the missiles that were in Israel in the last week or so, but when it comes to Teshuva nobody knows what I’m talking about. So what is Teshuva? People think that if they take their Tehillim say a few Kapitlach (chapters), and are a little bit more careful about their Kashrus, and make sure they don’t talk Loshon Hora about Reshoim, then they think they are being good. It’s not enough. It’s ridiculous. We’re nowhere near where we need to be, and I’m worried and I’m afraid for Am Yisroel. So if my words are too sharp for you, I’m very sorry but I must try to save you Beezras Hashem or to get you to try to save yourselves and if its too hard, to harsh, then throw this paper away, and I’ll Daven for you.

Yesterday a ceasefire was signed between The State of Israeli and the Arabs. This ceasefire is a joke. Very soon there will be another war that will drag on and on and cause us much anxiety and suffering. The only way that we can get through this is Rachmai Shomayim.

What I have said above is only examples of the problems of our generation. These are only small examples of how far this generation of so-called Frum Yidden have gotten from the Truth, and I feel that I must say these things to you my fellow Jews because I love you and I want you to get through these last wars without unneeded suffering. I Bentch all Am Yisroel that we should greet Moshiach Tzidkainu BeRachamim Uv’Simcha in the very near future.

74 comments:

  1. Air travel is not tzniusdik? Are you kidding me?

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    1. Do you think it is tzniusdik? I travel all the time and I can write a book on the things I have seen go on during flights.

      I think Moishela knows what he is talking about and he is right too!!!!

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    2. Air travel is not tzniusdik? Are you kidding me? be honest, of course it's NOT tzniusdik,....... from the minute one enters the airport it's almost impossible to watch ones eyes 100% most workers are women.

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    3. Why would it be when even many of the flight attendants are wearing tight clothing, lots of makeup and are very distracting. That is not including the woman that I just might be seated next to, who is improperly dressed and wants to talk to me the entire trip. Then when it comes time to daven and the only place available is where there are going to be mixed seating with women talking throughout my davening. Should I go on?

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  2. Very well said indeed.

    I was thinking very much along the same lines in a piece I published after Sandy that was posted on your blogroll.

    If you haven't seen it yet you might want to take a look:

    http://emunahspeak.blogspot.com/2012/11/a-gut-rehab.html

    As far as Anonymous's comment above goes, to posit that there is no tznius issue regarding air travel is like saying that the world is flat, with the only caveat being that a better case can be made for the proposition that the world is flat.

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  3. I'm a bit skeptical as to the veracity of the claim that this piece (and all those that preceded it) has been penned by a 'special Neshoma'. How do we know that it's not the product of a very bored, imaginative mind? Why don't the families of this Moisha'le, and Binyomin, publicize their names? I mean, if you have a message from Hashem, shout it from the rooftops! Post a video where Moisha'le talks and warns about those things!

    Besides, didn't these "kids" write roughly a half-year ago that it was the last that we were gonna hear from them, and that they were barred from Shomayim to give warnings from that point on? What changed?

    I don't know. Color me skeptical.

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    1. TO REB. SHMILY

      "Besides, didn't these "kids" write roughly a half-year ago that it was the last that we were gonna hear from them,"

      You are definitely correct by making this statement, but if you read carefully what they said and what Moishela is saying/writing you’ll find the answer to your question.

      What they said (Dani18.com) very clearly is that there won't be anymore “messages” for Klall Yisroel till Moshiach comes, however if you noticed the heading for the past Moishela's writing is "Discussion with Moishela (and his family) Part..." it's an inner discussion that Moishela had privately with his family not an open message for the Am, I guess his family decided to share it out-of-the-goodness of their hearts, so we have to be appreciatively that we still get some hot stuff off the press directly from Hashem at a dire and crucial time in world history like now.

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  4. historically, the autistics' "very soon" can mean decades.

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    1. Josh,

      why not think more positive?

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    2. because this is not really the autistics talking, and anyone who believes so needs to study more.

      it is not "positive" to believe the negative lashon hara and negative predictions that these folks are peddling.

      they say "very soon", but you can never prove them wrong, because elsewhere, they clarify that "very soon" can mean decades. so point this out now, so that people are not misled.

      all the best,
      josh

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    3. I agree with Josh, 5-7 years ago, I read from their blogs that that is the end, I think they lost in space. They see something but it is not clear for them where it is and when it will be.

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  5. Where did the sudden prohibition to fly, as per your previous post about Jacob's Ladder, Devorah, come from? As pur Daniyel hanavi, knowledge will go to and fro. Is Moishe"la hinting at an EMP attack? How does that correspond with Tel Aviv {aka Gush Dan which rightfully belongs under the jurisdiction of Ethiopian Jewry, who claim descent from Sheven Dan} rising to #2 among the goyim of Hi-Tech hubs, as per R' David K? How are malakhim ve k'ruvim supposed to do their Job {which is increasingly becoming hectic, with Hanukkah practically ahead of schedule}, if they are not permitted to travel? To clip wings is one thing. To prevent messages from being disseminated is harsh, but if that's what is in store for a chatty, violent, decrepit, inhospitable, lowly, decadent, cruel, incapable and incompetent generation, so beit.

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  6. I never believe in these navi sheker. never read them

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  7. Is this inspiring anyone? It is SO DIFFERENT from the approach of such holy Tzadikim as the Baal Shem Tov, the Bardichever, the Lubavitcher Rebbe, so narrow (addressed to chareidim and the smallest details of their frumkeit), SO negative and judgmental and SO devoid of any appreciation for the core goodness of the Jews, the power of even one mitzvah. And it is so fear-based -- I'm torn between total skepticism and annoyance and the desire to find some corner somewhere that I can crawl into and hide.

    Is this really the best we can do in terms of connecting more deeply with each other (the key to the geula, no?) and Hashem??????

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    1. May I give an example to help a bit?
      Say your toddler was walking beside you and you were coming up to a road you needed to cross. the child breaks away from you and knowing the direction runs cheerfully towards the road. as he leaves go of your hand, you warn him to hold on and to note the danger. as he goes further away you shout louder. as he nears the road you shriek urgently and become hysterical as you see a fast car approaching.
      G-d forbid this should happen. but understand we are IN the end of days and we are being urgently reminded for our safety. of course the mother loves her toddler and would give her life for him, and that is exactly why she shrieked so much and bothered to care for him-she wants to ensure the child's safety. and surely anybody nearby who can hear the mother's cries and notes the dire situation would add their cries too.
      All the best, rina

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    2. Dear Shifra,

      Thanks so much for posting your question, because I was actually have same thoughts, finally I came up with an answer that satisfied me.

      I don't know who you are and where you come from but, with all due respect the Tzadikim you mentioned above the Great Baal Shem Tov, the Bardichever who was the lover of all kinds of Jews, the Lubavitcher Rebbe zt”l the leader of the generation, all spoke the tone that was needed at that particular time in their generation.

      As a matter a fact I remember that many criticized the late Lubavitcher Rebbe zt"l for his way of Farbranging , me being a native New Yorker would answer them to keep quiet and not give advice to such a Golol Hador as how to approach his community.

      Every community every generation has to be inspired in different ways. To be totally honest, WE ARE ALL SLEEPING and Hashem has sent us so many warnings-wake up calls in past ten years or so, still most of us are living our lives with business as usual!!!

      If we ONLY use the warm loving approach that the Tzadikim and Rebbes used for Hundreds of years ago unfortunately it won't get us to far for us in 2012, so I guess (can't speak for Moishela) that Moishela being a messenger from directly from Hashem to the entire Klall Yisroel has to put the cards on the table facing up.

      The previous generations of the Baal Shem Tov zt”l , the Bardichever zt”l etc. did not have the desires of today, different Yatzer Horah, different Nisyonos, different Averous, different love for Hashem and the total different Mesiros nefesh for Judaism as a whole, so we can not compare the Kiruv ways of today’s people to the previous generations in this aspect.

      You will find in the Alter Rebbeh zt”l says that one who can’t stand another Jew who is more stringent then them with Dikduk Hamitzvos being observant on a more extreme level, is considered as having a Neshomah of Amalak, I would say that that’s quite sharp.

      I am also sure the Alter Rebbea had a love for every single Yid in the world!!! But lets not pretend that they all spoke in the Bardichever’s Derech, so the question is, where is the love to every Yid how can one call a fellow yid Amelak??? How come the Alter Rebbeh spoke so harsh? but as it was said before, the Alter Rebbeh was addressing this sensitive subject differently because speaking harsh is speaking love at times.

      Also perhaps the Alter Rebbeh was addressing his community and felt that if he is not harsh enough to call a fellow yid an Amelakey he did not fulfill his position of teaching klallYisroel the truth. That particular lesson has to last until the coming of Moshiach, and we do see how low we have fallen world wide, we have to be awaken in different methods them the Bardichever zt”l so I guess Moishela has to be a little tougher to get his valid points across to ALL of us.

      once again thanks for bringing up the question.

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    3. What he says makes a lot of sense. I can't find anything he says that is harsh. He may be callling people out on their lies and inconsistancies, pretending to be one thing whilst really being another. His best example is of young men who are interested in "midot" (which in Hebrew means both measurements (thus, dress size) and character traits.

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  8. Who is this message addressed to? Can anyone besides a very insular narrow segment of the Orthodox population connect to it? The people that can identify with this usually don't use the Internet.
    It's a yechi approach that seems to have an agenda of scaring people in the same respect as that avoda zara religion.
    Now I am skeptical of the autistic messages.
    G-d is loving. This message is not G-dly.

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    1. I think that the "Dear Shifra" post address your issue

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  9. Devorah, Where is Mosishe'la from? How does a person know that he is one of the true autistics? Do you have a photo of him?

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    1. No photo, nothing except an email address, so really there is no proof, unless the person who is sending the emails decides to give us proof. I publish these because I know people are interested in reading them, but my personal opinion is still undecided as to whether or not they are authentic or believable, which is the same way I have felt about the previous autistics messages on the internet. I DO NOT KNOW. It is up to each reader to come to his or her own conclusion, unless some proof is shown as to who this autistic boy really is and who exactly is doing the facilitating and typing of the emails.

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    2. lets analyze just one point of Moishela’s points: Do we Daven in Shul with out a Mechitza? so why should we Daven on an airplane or airport with out a Mechitza? Moishela is so right, but we don't want to admit it.

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  10. Weird, I have the same feeling about this...I agree with you.

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  11. Jeremiah and many other prophets did not bring happy, feel - good prophecy to the people. That's why they were hated. The people loved the navi sheker who said all is good and is going to be warm and fuzzy. The you-know-what is going to hit the fan very soon. Don't you think the enemies surrounding Israel are re-arming as we speak? It is going to be terrible - G-d forbid! when multiple long range and short range rockets are fired at the heart of Israel at the same time. This is the difference between us and them. Destroying us is their life, it is their raison d'être and ours according to some is denying the sky is blue. Do you think we'll be flying into Ben Gurion when that happens? There will probably be no flights into Israel. That's going to be a bummer because when the reality of this big war hits the streets of America, they will be coming for the cause of it according to the hyperbolic Palestinian propaganda arms of ABC,CBS, NBC, MSNBC,CNN and NPR.

    http://patdollard.com/2012/11/obama-supporters-celebrate-no-more-israel-kill-those-motherfers/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU-fMD41FpY

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  12. shalom devorah, I love your blog. These points he makes could be used as constructive suggestions , on areas we may need to strenghten ourselves, but unfortunatly, this message isnt very upplifting or encouraging. How can one not be moved by , and apperciate, the masses of jews making tshuvah during this difficult generation. what about our cup thats half full. On a more posotive note, on the defense of our fellow jews, I would like to pay a few compliments. I've recently made aliyah to israel where my son was unfortunatly in the hospital, for weeks. during our stay encountered jews from all walks of life, and I was able to witness, and experience, all the best and special qualities that a jew encompases, their kindness, generosity, concern, love, merciful, patient, strong, faithful. being an american it touches me to see a man pull a kippa out of his pocket and make kiddush for the strangers in the next room. or the soldiers come to visit the sick, and blow ballons for the little children. how about our soldiers putting on tfillin in the middle of a battle feild? how about those who dont leave their place during prayer when rockets are raining down on their neighborhood as they pray? how about those who people who come to bring mehadrin shabbos meals to those who stay for shabbat in the hospital. how about the kids who walk to shul with their daddies on shabbat despite rockets exploding on the neighbors house? how about our brave children who read tehillim from the bomb shelters, for am yisrael? how about our soldriers who risk their lives to defend our country. Our nation is special, and although we've been through hard times, were always trying to reach back out to Hashem. We're confused sometimes, were human, sometimes we're not perfect. But There is no nation like ours. Look for the good and you will find it!!!!!!

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  13. This isn't chizuk, it's a warning.

    "For it is a rebellious people, lying children, children that refuse to hear the teaching of the LORD; That say to the seers: 'See not,' and to the prophets: 'Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy delusions.. "

    Isaiah 30: 9-10

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  14. "Of course it’s not as bad as in America, where people hop off to Disney world, or Disney Land, or Epcot, or who knows what"

    How does an autistic Israeli kid have such knowledge of all these places?! ALARM BELLS! Something tells me this whole "autistic" thing is just a shtick and all this that we are reading is actually the opinion of the "facilitator."

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  15. The points he makes could be used as constructive suggestions, on areas that we may need to strengthen ourselves, but unfortunately, this message isn't very uplifting or encouraging, because “most” of us are not ready to change our bad habits and that's exactly what moishela has been telling us in the past few messages that he has given to us straight from hashem.

    This is no news to Am yisroel we’re a stiff nation, from beginning of times we are not ready to except that we have to change our ways and change enough to be able to speed up the arrival of the moshiach.

    How can any one in their right mind argue on the points that are made by moishela or his friends? I think that the reason why we criticize his writings is “because the truth hurts” and we are not ready to admit it.

    After all "From the time the Bais HaMikdosh was destroyed, prophecy was taken away from prophets and handed over to fools" (Gemara, Bava Batra 12b).

    The Shechina (Divine Presence) only dwells on a joyful person, and after the destruction (of the Bais HaMikdosh) joy has been abolished from the hearts of the intelligent. Fools and children, however, can be joyful because they lack intelligence" (Maharsha).

    "Sometimes Higher power dwells on them" (Ein Yaakov)
    "This can be compared to a king who arranged a large meal [but before their partaking in it] his servants sinned to him. [Seeing this,] the king commanded to throw the whole meal to the dogs. The same is true about the gift of prophecy. Since Klall Yisrael sinned, Hashem disgraces them by giving this gift to those lacking intelligence" (Toras Chaim)

    "Prophecy was given to fools since by them the screen
    (i.e., the brain) is not so strong.
    The brains of fools are damaged, and one can peek within the world of the soul without any physical concealment or cover.

    When the brain is damaged, the soul is freed. It is unlimited and sees all. The brain is what limits and conceals the soul" (HaRav E.E. Dessler, IV)

    So who we arguing with? the Gemorah? the Maharsha? the Ein Yaakov? the Toras Chaim? the Chazel? Etc. You know something? In the times of the Bais hamikdosh Hashem sent 1.2 Million prophets to wake up Am yisroel so they can do teshuva and avoid the destruction of the Bais hamikdosh and Am yisroel used all kind of excuses as why not to except their harsh words and did not wake up and change, same thing is happening today.

    Maybe that’t why Chazal teach us that two thirds of the world will be whipped out before the arrival of the Moshicah because the are not willing to change their gashmius life style, so we really have a choice as to belong to the One third that will greet the Moshiach or chas veSholom to the two thirds that....

    **********We have to constantly remember that hashem has been sending us all kind of natural disasters to awaken us and many of us are still ignoring him, because it’s easier to ignore him then to admit our faults and do teshuva.**************


    TIME TO ADMIT OUR FAULTS.

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  16. I think that all Moishelah is doing is blowing his horn very laud and we not in the mood of changing around our lives and admit our faults.We want to keep on living a life style f lies because it makes us happy!!! and moishelah is trying to better us and don't like that

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    1. we know it. and that's why 80% of the jews would not see mashiach. that's the core of all negative statements towards Moshele warnings. the truth is we all see the world is ending, we do not need Moshele to explain us. A little emuna in Hashem won't bother. Perhaps a little won't be enough... Elana.

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    2. ""Chaval"" what a shame that Moishela speaks what the leaders fail in their duty's to protest against their political gain.

      After all is said and done "Moishela Speaks the Hard Truth!"



      ""Chaval"" what a shame that Moishela speaks what the leaders fail in their duty's to protest against their political gain.

      After all is said and done "Moishela Speaks the Hard Truth!"

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  17. "How does an autistic Israeli kid have such knowledge of all these places?! ALARM BELLS" i am not sure but many Gedolay Hador have given the approval to their messages. I say right or wrong the point is well made to anyone who is interested to "change"

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  18. "but many Gedolay Hador have given the approval to their messages"

    really. how many Gedolei HaDor have given approval to their messages? please name names.

    and i mean their MESSAGES, in particular. not decades-old approval when the phenomenon was just emerging. i mean how many have read Daniel, or Ben, or Moisheleh's messages and say that they agree with the predictions and the theology therein?

    (the people behind the autistics took these early approvals and used them to create their own religion, in which they blast Gedolim with whom they disagree, and use 'prophecy' to decide halacha, something Rambam says is the mark of a false prophet.)

    kol tuv,
    josh

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  19. nice posts above, if anyone is looking for the truth it can be found in moishales writings

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  20. I am the original anonymous-and what I meant to convey was the idea that it is absurd that air travel could be considered so untzniusdik as to bar its use...that would be absurd. The fact is, we live in the 21st century, not in the early 20th century in shtetlach where we can be insulated from the outside world. The idea that we need to steer clear from things like air travel (which btw will take us all to Israel IY"H) is simply meshuga to me. I also agree with the sentiment of the other posters that the sources of these "autistic" messages are dubious at best and don't relate a G-dly message-certainly not the same G-dly message that brought me closer to yiddishkeit.

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    1. so if I understand you correctly you are from the 2/3 of hte world who are not getting ready to greet moshiach?

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  21. I like seeing negative comments to Moishels posts because that proves to us how powerful his words are and how the Yatzer hora can't stand the truth. I guess Moishelas words hit the spot.

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  22. Whilst this message, whomever it is really from, contains a good promotion of Yiddishkeit and learning, there must be caution too. It seems to propose an extremely strict life which for most people would result in depression, that in turn would lead to sin. I do not propose an abandonment of Torah, but for many people the odd trip to a Kosher restaurant is a nice treat, not a sinful event. There are families who are split across the globe for various reasons and it is not correct to criticise them without an appraisal of their personal circumstances. When I have travelled EL Al, I find the staff and passengers very helpful if someone wishes to swap seats to sit next to someone of their own gender.

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    1. " When I have traveled EL Al, I find the staff and passengers very helpful if someone wishes to swap seats to sit next to someone of their own gender."

      TO LONDON MALE
      you are 100% right but the stewardess are dressed in skin tight clothing with loads of make up to make the very attractive to the passengers.

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  23. The simple fact that the Rabbis have not spoken out against the Autistics means a whole lot , as we all know the Rabbanim have increased the fences around the Torah since most of us can remember more and more things have become restricted for Bnay Torah but as Mosheila correctly points out many have gotten aroung these prohibitions with even hechsherim jusy as a pig has kosher feet . Okay , so all those who want to live should understand that it makes no difference who is talking when the truth is spoken we should take heed as we will pay a high price for going against the spirit of the Torah ,
    some of the people who place doubts are extremely intelligent people but they too will suffer for not taking what Moishele speaks seriously !

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  24. So, let me get this straight: We need to come to Israel RIGHT NOW!! But flying is not tznius enough so ... um, how do we get to Israel? Do we sit on the ground and throw dirt on our heads for being such sinners for wanting to fly on a plane without a michitza? Last I heard none of the autistics had an airline. Are there ships going to Eretz Yisroel? I can't drive there and there aren't any trains going there either. I guess I'll pound my chest for being such a sinner...

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    1. when you are ready to live your life with the Emes then Hashem will answer your childish questions. As of now you seem to be from the 2/3 of the world who are not going to greet Moshiach. But Hayyyy you never know maybe you'll still do Teshuva and be Zocha to greet Moshiach.

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  25. joshua manevitz
    "The simple fact that the Rabbis have not spoken out against the Autistics"

    I think the simple fact is that nobody takes them seriously enough to warrant a response from Gedolim. However my firm belief is that if Rav Shteinman read the above from "Moishela" he would burst out laughing and think it is absurd and if he heard people are taking it seriously he would be upset and speak up about it.

    Yes we need to work on Tznius and limiting Gashmius and what not. But the fire and brimstone extremism of the above post is unrealistic and is not the Torah way and will drive most people away from Torah not closer to it. Hashem never said in the Aseres Hadibros "Thou shalt live in a cave all the days of your life and never come in contact with the outside world." Deracheha darchei noam. Hashem put us here to use and elevate Gashmius. Not live ascetic lives like Buddhist monks!

    Additionally many Gedolim have used and currently use air travel so who does Moshelas handlers think they are to speak out against what the Gedolim clearly matir and do themselves?! I really think its time the Gedolim found out what these handlers are saying and blaming on innocent autistic children. Who gives them the right to exploit mentally disabled children this way?! How sick can you be?!

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    1. you are not making much sense to me.on one hand you say " Yes we need to work on Tznius and limiting Gashmius and what not" then you say that "if Rav Shteinman read the above from "Moishela" he would burst out laughing and think it is absurd" let me tell you what my friend shared with me the other day, Rav Shteinman is all behind it, and my friend knows this information first hand.

      before trying to destroy Moishela's holy word think twice, the day of judgement is coming up very soon, be careful as not to get caught in the black lane.

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    2. I dont belive you. Rav Shteinman flies and has been to America and other contries. I think if he read the messages he would not approve. If people who are dishonest (like the facilitators and their cronies likely are) and make it sound like benign calls to Teshuva. Rav Shteinman is not an extremist as you can see from many clips of him on the internet.

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  26. I believe Moishela's facilitator/father is doing the "seeing." These warnings have been going on for so long - getting more frequent when there is terrorism or earthquakes. We've been warned of impending doom for almost 10 years. We've been told we'd never hear from them again. I know somethings coming but I do not think Moishele is speaks for Hashem. Here is some info regarding the controversy of Facilitated Communication.

    http://suite101.com/article/the-controversy-over-facilitated-communication-a173989

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  27. Anonymous:
    "so if I understand you correctly you are from the 2/3 of hte world who are not getting ready to greet moshiach"

    because someone doesn't agree with a fringe group using dubious methods of "prophecy", they must be part of the 2/3 of the world?

    joshua manevitz
    "The simple fact that the Rabbis have not spoken out against the Autistics means a whole lot"
    The Rabbis have not spoken out against Scientology either. I guess that means I should join that cult!

    They are not aware of all fringe cults and their messages, and the Rabbis' silence should not be taken as endorsement.

    Here are some interesting statements to the point:
    “I have also spoken to some gedolim that felt that there may be some truth to FC but they warn against using it to ask these children to predict future events as some are now doing.”
    --Rabbi Eli Teitelbaum


    Also, see this article:
    http://www.daat.ac.il/daat/kitveyet/assia/tikshoret-2.htm
    in which we see that Rav Shlomo Zalman Aurbach commissioned a *scientist* to review the authenticity of facilitated communication about practical things, before deciding whether there was anything to the mysticism. (It seems that the final decision was that it was not real.)
    From the same article, a citation from Yated Neeman:
    "כל גדולי ישראל מרנן ורבנן שליט"א, גדולי מרביצי התורה ופוסקי הדור, ביקרו בחריפות את התופעה החדשה, ביטלו את הדברים הללו כעפרא דארעא, קבעו כי אין לעסוק בהם, ומחו נגד העיסוק בנושא זה בצורה מפוקפקת וחסרת בסיס".
    Which translates to "all Gedolei Yisrael, our Teachers and Rabbis shlita, the great spreaders of Torah and Decisors of the generation, investigated diligently this new development, and declared null these matters like the dust of the earth, established that one should not engage in it, and objected against engaging in this practice..."

    So "the Rabbis" (some of them, at least) HAVE spoken out against the Autistics. It is just that the people here were not listening.

    kol tuv,
    josh

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    1. It won’t help you mocking Moishela, by you mocking him it shows us your true colors, there is nothing wrong with Moishela stating the truth, obviously YOU are not ready to except the words from Shoyamim that’s being sent to us by Moishela, it has been posted here on this blog before that 2/3 of the world will not greet Moshiach, only 1/3 who will do Teshuva will greet Moshiach and the way you are exposing yourself you are still part of the 2/3 who will not merit unless you wake up and do teshuva.

      You have chosen to cut and paste a few lines from here and there to prove a point (BTW you have not proven Moishela wrong yet) but: "From the time the Bais HaMikdosh was destroyed, prophecy was taken away from prophets and handed over to fools" (Gemara, Bava Batra 12b).

      The Shechina (Divine Presence) only dwells on a joyful person, and after the destruction (of the Bais HaMikdosh) joy has been abolished from the hearts of the intelligent. Fools and children, however, can be joyful because they lack intelligence" (Maharsha).

      "Sometimes Higher power dwells on them" (Ein Yaakov)
      "This can be compared to a king who arranged a large meal [but before their partaking in it] his servants sinned to him. [Seeing this,] the king commanded to throw the whole meal to the dogs. The same is true about the gift of prophecy. Since Klall Yisrael sinned, Hashem disgraces them by giving this gift to those lacking intelligence" (Toras Chaim)

      "Prophecy was given to fools since by them the screen
      (i.e., the brain) is not so strong. The brains of fools are damaged, and one can peek within the world of the soul without any physical concealment or cover.

      When the brain is damaged, the soul is freed. It is unlimited and sees all. The brain is what limits and conceals the soul"
      (HaRav E.E. Dessler, IV)

      Most Rabbis world wide are behind the FC of the Autistics who are Tzadikim, many Gedolim have personally asked them questions and backed them up all the way, you have an internal problem not wanting to change so you are trying to bash them, you have to find some Simcha in you life to become a positive person, you have to much anger inside of you, it wont help you become a better person, you must relax.

      The truth will prevail as it always does. It’s all going to come out into the open as we get closer to Moshiach's arrival, there will always be the ones who will mock the true words of the clean and pure Neshomos of our Gedolim and Autistics who speak the truth!!!!!, the Yatzer Hora has many messengers doing the dirty work for him, we had the Muskilim the Kofrim the Tzadokim etc. this is nothing new that people pop up all over and condemn the EMES the truth the true words of Musser, Chasidos and Chizuk.

      I don't know who you are and where you come from, but I am so happy to say that I received tones of Chizuk from Moishela I have been following him all the way from his first post right here on this Blog and I will say freely that he has helped me and my family to realize that we better shape up, YOU are not going to change my mind or thousands of others by cutting and pasting few lines from here and there making believe that they are not correct.

      Moishela must have special a strength that was given to him as a Gift from Heaven, his teaching penetrates right through our Neshomos, to those who are getting ready to leave the golden calf, most of the world are not yet ready to better them self’s, I thank hashem that he helped me get a head start and I’m trying to be from the 1/3 of the world who WILL be greeting Moshiach Bezeras Hashem very soon.

      May all of us merit take the teaching of Moishela and our Gedolim serious enough to change our bad ways and do a real Teshuva see the Geulah come sooner than we anticipate it.

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  28. Here are some interesting statements to the point:
    “I have also spoken to some gedolim that felt that there may be some truth to FC but they warn against using it to ask these children to predict future events as some are now doing.”
    --Rabbi Eli Teitelbaum

    I have not noticed that moishela is predicting the future he is telling us hard facts based on whats happening now,

    what is important to us is the first line "I have also spoken to some gedolim that felt that there may be some truth to FC" don't shov that line into the corner making believe that FC is not approved by the Gedolim.

    because FC like from Moishela is approved by our Gedolim see www.dani18.com for more information

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  29. "It won’t help you mocking Moishela"

    Where did I mock Moshela? I do mock the people who are using him as a sock-puppet, but my comment was not mocking him.

    "I have not noticed that moishela is predicting the future"
    Really? How about "Very soon there will be another war..."?

    how about "Last night a Tzaddik came to me in a dream. The Tzaddik was my Rebbe the Baal Shem Tov and with words he painted for me a vision of the near future of the world. I saw death and destruction for much of the world,
    I saw Yidden in Eretz Yisroel suffering pain and hunger and confusion,
    I saw many Yidden their lifeless bodies strewn around on the ground,
    I saw a group of Yidden coming together and crying out to Hashem.
    They where wrapped in Talaisim and with Tefillin on their heads and arms they were crying and begging Hashem to forgive them and bring the Geula.."

    "The Gedolim" is not monolithic. You have a very few big rabbis who promoted it because of the kiruv opportunity back when facilitated communication was believed by many in the scientific community to be science, rather than pseudo-science. These same rabbis, if you actually read there haskamos (as I have) say explicitly not to rely on them for halacha or for future events, but rather one should rely on rabbonim. Meanwhile, many other Gedolim have opposed them.

    what is important to us is the first line
    means that you are only listening to half of what they said. if you are relying upon them for halachic decisions, rather than on your local orthodox rabbi; or if you are relying on them to predict the future, then you are not following what these few Gedolim said in their support.

    You cite Bava Basra, as if I don't know it, and as if I have not addressed that gemara at great length in the past. The gemara gives examples of the children and fools, which are not the same as the autistics. Someone saying "I am a child, I am a fool, therefore you must heed my prophecy" is NOT what the gemara is talking about. You kvetch the gemara one way, citing various explanations which lead to a *possible*, rather than certain, support for Facilitated Communication. Do you think Rav Shlomo Zalman Aurbach, for example, was unaware of the gemara in Bava Basra?

    "The truth will prevail as it always does."
    No, it won't. When Moisheleh's predictions fail to surface, people will make excuses. Or they will forget until the next excitement.

    kol tuv,
    josh

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  30. "The truth will prevail as it always does."
    No, it won't. When Moisheleh's predictions fail to surface, people will make excuses. Or they will forget until the next excitement.


    Oh YES THE TRUTH WIll PREVAIL, same way Moishela predicted that Obama will win AND OBAMA DID WIN same way all of his predictions will come true as he speaks Hashms words

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    1. I agree with you 10000%

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  31. In terms of Rav Shteinman, see here. He was one of those few that endorsed the autistics. But Rav Shteinman says:

    "One should not use the statements of the mentally incompetent for any specific purpose or halachic ruling, and one must not ask them about the future."

    It should be readily apparent that before deciding that kollel with the wife working is assur, based on autistics; or forbidding pizza and soda, based on autistics; or forbidding travel, based on autistics, would be using their statements for a specific purpose or halachic ruling.

    To say that "Rav Shteinman is all behind it, and my friend knows this information first hand" is basically friend of a friend. It is rumor from an absolutely Anonymous commenter. And the friend probably knows about the partial endorsement, and misinterpreted the rest.

    kol tuv,
    josh

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  32. So, what should I do now, wait for Mashiah to gather us from all 4 corners if air planes is not tzniusdik? Or this averah may be erased as soon as I land to EY?

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  33. It is so funny, those who said that we have to make aliya and air planes like eagle of Mashiah, they say now it is not tzniusdik.

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  34. Anonymous:

    It is rather distracting keeping up a conversation with "Anonymous". Are you the same as the previous Anonymous, or a different person. Please choose a pseudonym.

    "same way Moishela predicted that Obama will win"
    That is not the way you distinguish a navi sheker from a navi emes. Nate Silver predicted the same, based on math, as well. Let the autistics appoint a sign (multiple times, as per the Rambam) beforehand, knowing it is a test, and let us discover whether they are or not.

    The same way autistic Ben Golden predicted this for Rosh Hashanah of several years ago?

    "Big wars...
    The land (Israel) will not be destroyed... but complete countries will disappear from history, including their residents....
    If, by this Rosh HaShana, Tishrei 5768, those will not do Teshuva (repentance) Oy to all... "

    kol tuv,
    josh

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    1. please explain why you are so against Jews doing Teshuva

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  35. In near future you will see kosher air planes and when you see it -- it is time for Mashiah

    --Tsaddik Nistar(I choose my pseudonym). Waiting for reply from the other 35.

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  36. M.H. I decided to delete your comment and my response.

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    1. I just wondering if you where asked to delete it or you did it on your own?

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  37. this is great and amazing stuff can anyone tell me where to find more of this enlightening stuff?

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  38. this is unbelievable, I never new that in this corrupted generation there is still a corner that speaks the truth.


    As far as the negative above comments I would not pay any attention to them because my neshoama feels the truth and I guess the above lifeless commenters have to look for someone to hold their hands and guide the to the truth

    Shabbat shalom to all jews world wide

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  39. FC runs into the possibility of Torah violations. דרכי האמורי, קוסם and תמים תהיה are the issues involved. If FC is nonsense, then it's דרכי האמורי. Even if it's proven authentic, you still have an issue of קוסם. In any case, there's also the issue of תמים תהיה.

    FC is nothing new; it's merely a variant of a bizarre practice done over 100 years ago. I refer you to שו"ת תשורת ש"י סימן קכט in which the posek says that practice of using children and a tablet of letters to elicit spiritual messages is forbidden.


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  40. "FC runs into the possibility of Torah violations"

    If that's so, why do so many Gedolay Hador encourage to read their writings?

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    1. You are so right, the writings posted of moishela right here and at Dani18.com should have been said by the leaders of world jury, but lots of them can not speak out, they can not speak the truth, because it will jeopardize their position their pay etc. we have to be thankful to the almighty that he sent us these warm enlightening words directly to us world wide.

      I can not agree with you more, and to moishela I want to tell you that you are the best please keep on posting more of the truth from moishela. i am love every word of yours!!!! some how you always manage to hit the nail on the head and its starting to sink in helping us to awaken from our sleep and to teshuva

      to the above criticizers I can only say that the truth HURTS and we have to face the reality that we are nearing the end of the Gulus, we must change.

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    2. I refer you again to the תשובה I cited. There too, the fraudster in question claimed he had endorsement from "gedolim". The posek still responds that it's forbidden, and he simply doesn't believe that gedolim would support such activities.

      It's there in print, and the psak is authentic, and clearly based on the traditional definitions of forbidden methods of divination.

      What you refer to is unsubstantiated rumor. What I'd like to see is a clearly written psak that deals with the issues of קוסם, דרכי האמורי, and תמים תהיה.

      Rabbi Waxman: Would such practices also be a violation of
      נביא מקרבך מאחיך כמני יקים לך ה' אלקיך ליו תשמעון ?

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  41. Anonymous:

    "If that's so, why do so many Gedolay Hador encourage to read their writings?"

    So many? Please name 10. No, people with Internet followings don't automatically count as Gedolim. Did Rav Elyashiv encourage this? Did Rav Chaim Kanievsky encourage it? Did Rav Ovadiah Yosef? Who, specifically, and what did they say?

    The same Gedolei HaDor you think encouraged this indeed warned about the possibility of Torah prohibitions.

    A nameless anonymous commentator proclaiming things in the name of anonymous Gedolay HaDor is not worth much. Reveal your name, identify the Gedolei HaDor, and we can analyze exactly what they did and did not say.

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  42. כל כך מדוייק מה שמויש'לה כותב לנו.

    למי שיש לב זה גם מפחיד ומעורר אותנו לתשובה אנחנו חייבים את זה..

    מוישל'ה אתה צודק !!! גם פה בארץ אנחנו שבויים,

    אני שומעת הרבה , יהודים יקרים ,מכל המגזרים,

    ואפילו חוזרים בתשובה זה מקרוב באו, ברגע שהתחתנו הביאו צאצאים,

    מה שנקרא בנו את ביתם, הגשמי והרוחני מתעסקים בכל הדברים שהסיטרא אחרא מציע,

    ולצערינו גם שכחו את הקדוש ברוך הוא!!!!

    גם שכחו את התורה והמצות כמו לדבר אמת,

    לקיים שבת, כשרות, וטהרת המשפחה!

    מדי פעם נזכרים ואומרים בעזרת השם. במיוחד לחומר.

    אבל ידוע מה שחכמינו אמרו לנו לדור האחרון הזה, שבסוף הסיטרא אחרא יוציא את

    את כל הכלים, ומי שיהיה בירושלים הכוונה גם בנשמה.

    קדוש יאמר לו . חזק וברוך.

    (תמשיך להפיץ את זה, זה כל כך אמת וחזק. תודה מלכה (רחובות

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