tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post3399684864987869449..comments2024-03-30T00:02:31.390+11:00Comments on Shirat Devorah: Tikkun for AmyDevorahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00793434651294780439noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-31368335298251730372011-08-03T07:11:57.873+10:002011-08-03T07:11:57.873+10:00May her soul finally know peace, and perhaps this ...May her soul finally know peace, and perhaps this tragedy is a lesson that true joy and fulfillment in life can never come from fame and secular accomplishment, but only from living one's life according to the Torah's teachings between man and G-d, and between man and his fellow (although she didn't know any better). (Not that there is an inherent problem in having fame, etc., but Yehoishophot Oliverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16906934928426540018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-49838491994748335612011-07-29T21:14:30.531+10:002011-07-29T21:14:30.531+10:00From what I heard and saw last in Halacha about Je...From what I heard and saw last in Halacha about Jews who willed themselves to get cremated, NO Shiva is performed and NO Kaddish is recited for them , because it doesn't do any good for the Neshama of the person who willed this to happen.shimonmatisyahuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00988486888703196670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-10215839361032120542011-07-29T06:19:52.021+10:002011-07-29T06:19:52.021+10:00Also see this post at Mashiach is ComingAlso see <a href="http://mashiachiscoming.blogspot.com/2011/07/closer-to-sinai.html" rel="nofollow">this post at Mashiach is Coming</a>Devorahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00793434651294780439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-64302362056642152432011-07-29T03:14:27.972+10:002011-07-29T03:14:27.972+10:00That's what Anon wrote:
In the case of the Wi...That's what Anon wrote:<br /><br />In the case of the Winehouses, they may just be תינוקות שנשבו - tinok shenishba. No-one called them apikores.Devorahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00793434651294780439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-50281942089291928062011-07-29T01:02:41.646+10:002011-07-29T01:02:41.646+10:00We're to consider Jews who never learned - not...We're to consider Jews who never learned - not apikores - but as if they'd been abducted as a child into an alien culture. Their lack of learning is not their fault. Amy's "Jewish" family tradition was cremation! This attitude of considering someone like Amy an apikores is IMHO arrogant and destructive to the Jewish nation.Moriahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10031303390387367887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-5685449880793222792011-07-28T18:22:52.220+10:002011-07-28T18:22:52.220+10:00her uncle is professer aniv at TAU ,SHE VISITED IS...her uncle is professer aniv at TAU ,SHE VISITED ISRAEL MANY times ,and wore a magen david...tziki kederanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-38463928208252090812011-07-28T17:26:57.663+10:002011-07-28T17:26:57.663+10:00So Doc would you cremate a member of your family, ...So Doc would you cremate a member of your family, and if not, why not?Devorahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00793434651294780439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-59288529723128534112011-07-28T16:41:04.326+10:002011-07-28T16:41:04.326+10:00Anonymous, I don't see your point. I don't...Anonymous, I don't see your point. I don't see how if god can't bring a human back to life, he can't put dust together to reform the body. Your limited brain is trying to understand an infinite being, and then labeling Jews who never learnt better apikoresDrMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09903851188946152072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-68276113734445504522011-07-28T05:35:08.006+10:002011-07-28T05:35:08.006+10:00I don't think there is any of the 365 negative...I don't think there is any of the 365 negative commandments which would qualify this as a biblical prohibition, so technically, DR M is right.<br /> <br />However, it seems to me that this is a negation of the belief in תחיית המתים, which would make it worse than transgressing a biblical commandment - it makes one an אפיקורס.<br /> <br />In the case of the Winehouses, they may just be תינוקותAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-85783347914360987122011-07-27T09:07:46.893+10:002011-07-27T09:07:46.893+10:00I jsut wrote to a Rabbi Howard the website. I wro...I jsut wrote to a Rabbi Howard the website. I wrote it very respectfully and hope it is received well. My intent (and I wrote this) was to reach out warmly and not to judge.Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00338022892863788418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-28457467694031549412011-07-27T08:37:23.585+10:002011-07-27T08:37:23.585+10:00It seems by that responsa of Rav Silberberg that c...It seems by that responsa of Rav Silberberg that cremation at most is a rabbinic prohibition. His argument that cremation isn't burying someone in the earth is weak at best. I would love to hear a response from a traditional Sephardi rav, who can actually mention the sources of mishnah and gemara to prove the biblical prohibition. (I am not advocating violating rabbinic prohibitions, but justDrMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09903851188946152072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-91670721676017985742011-07-27T08:18:43.559+10:002011-07-27T08:18:43.559+10:00My neshama is crying for her. Yes, we need to writ...My neshama is crying for her. Yes, we need to write to this rabbi. I don't know what it will do, yet we should still make the effort.Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00338022892863788418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-49850902777817584692011-07-27T07:15:23.427+10:002011-07-27T07:15:23.427+10:00Devorah, thank you for a most beautiful and compas...Devorah, thank you for a most beautiful and compassionately-worded post. indeed, may it be a tikkun for her soul.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-50595420132401324222011-07-27T06:30:23.777+10:002011-07-27T06:30:23.777+10:00The parents need spiritual intervention of the mos...The parents need spiritual intervention of the most urgent. Amy's gilgul here was rife with strife and pain - she was literally tortured. They need to be told of the journey the soul takes, why TIME is of such an essence how all stages in the soul's journey and subsequent elevation require the element of time here on earth to transpire. It is them that could HELP HER get to where she Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-30286167335209846232011-07-27T06:00:33.027+10:002011-07-27T06:00:33.027+10:00Good idea, let's all write to the rabbi:
Email...Good idea, let's all write to the rabbi:<br />Email sps@liberaljudaism.org <br />Website: sps.uk.comDevorahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00793434651294780439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5653322480497916341.post-35656462967546227522011-07-27T05:49:30.478+10:002011-07-27T05:49:30.478+10:00I read the article today and was shocked! Motzei S...I read the article today and was shocked! Motzei Shabbos I read an article that ended stating Amy would be buried 'according to Jewish tradition.' I actually felt relief when I read it. The grief I felt for Amy is she never knew the value of being a Jew, that she never lit candles or experienced the beauty of Shabbos. I wrote the rabbi officiating the cremation. I asked about the 'Moriahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10031303390387367887noreply@blogger.com