Hi Devorah, For some reason I can't access the shiur by Rav Fish that you posted. Where else can I find it, or can you summarize his main points? Thank you.
He's saying that earthquakes precede Geula. Gog u Magog is divided into 3 parts: WW1, WW2 and third part to come. There was also a big earthquake in Turkey in WW2. As Tehillim says "the mountains will fall into the sea"
Thats just from my memory - maybe I've missed some important things, but basically he thinks this quake is preceding the Geula 5783.
Please G-d let it be true. Rav Fish is pretty reliable I have to say.
Also see: http://yeranenyaakov.blogspot.com/2022/11/calculations-and-populations.html about Rosh Hodesh Shevat. Note from Yaak that the halacha is according to Beit Hillel that the New Year for trees is on Tu Bishvat - not Rosh Hodesh Shevat - and therefore everything gets pushed off to Tu Bishvat. Hence, the earthquake.
I'm surprised there was no mention about Shabbetai Tzvi in relation to Turkey. I believe I heard gilgulim often come back in the [approximate] locales they were previously, and that that's why so much has been going on recently in Ukraine - because of what took place there in the Holocaust. So maybe the same principles have been activated now in Turkey, hundreds of years after the Shabbetai Tzvi fervor. M.M.
The Metzudat David says that when the earth passes from quiet to shaking and the mountains fall into the depths of the sea this is a sign of Gog and its downfall.
When will it occur?
The perek continues:
יִרְעֲשׁוּ הָרִים בְּגַאֲוָתוֹ סֶלָה. ה נָהָר--פְּלָגָיו, יְשַׂמְּחוּ עִיר-אֱלֹהִים; קְדֹשׁ, מִשְׁכְּנֵי עֶלְיוֹן. ו אֱלֹהִים בְּקִרְבָּהּ, בַּל-תִּמּוֹט; יַעְזְרֶהָ אֱלֹהִים, לִפְנוֹת בֹּקֶר.
[The Rav emphasises with his voice lifnot boker, in the early hours of the morning]. That's when it will start
On yud beShvat, he spoke at length about the comet that is approaching our planet.
The earthquake was 7.8 on the Richter scale, shows the connection of shvii and motzai shvii, Ben David Ba.
The gematria of reidat adama gedola, a big earthquake, is 5783 (with the colel)
Someone (didn't catch who) brought that before Bnot Lot gave birth to the root of Moshiach, Sdom was overturned, because before Moshiach comes the mountains will be torn asunder and fall in the water, as is said in Tehillim and that this is the beginning of the war of Gog and Magog.
Harokeach says in parshat vayera that that is the reason for Sdom being overturned, that is the order, first of all an earthquake, and then Moshiach was born.
The connection to TuBiShvat is that this is the time that Malchus matzmicha umorida, causes growth and brings down (bracha, rain), molida (?) begets, ... we see the birth of xxx, of malchus, of Moshiach, (a bit unclear, but that's the general idea).
The Zohar Hakadosh says that the root of all earthquakes in the world is in Tsion.
Earthquakes in the world are a sign that Malchus in the world is about to change.
Everything that is happening, the place, the time, the minute, explicit psukim that are happening before our very eyes, as too divrei chazal.
Dov: the quake was very close to Antioch http://www.fides.org/en/news/73382-ASIA_TURKEY_Antioch_the_earthquake_destroys_mosques_and_churches_Catholic_parish_welcomes_displaced_people
Rav Fish adds: In short, from the Zohar, don't expect to see the feet of the geula etc until Turkey and Russia (both countries explicitly named) are destroyed (doesn't mean complete annihilation, but widespread destruction). Immediately after this there will be a sign, ot, ... a star from yaakov.
If Nibiru is a dark dwarf star, it will pass earth perpendicular to earth's revolution around the Sun, coming from above the Arctic Circle or below Antarctica. If it comes from any other angle that is not perpendicular, we would already see major perturbations in Keplar's Laws of Planetary motion from gravitational force vectors in the plane of the planets' revolutions around the Sun. We would already detect that R³/T² ≠ A Constant.
It seems we are very far off from turkey and russia being destroyed. If it was Ukraine, I would call that destruction. Unfortunately, if we have to wait for turkey and russia to be destroyed in even a small way, we may not have Moshiach this year, 5783 :(
I've been watching Nibiru videos and reading up and I can tell you now that it is here, and it has it's own planets and moons. It is a second solar system. If you watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHyre2gFVXI [two minute video]
it explains how to see these planets and moons. They are right in your face and huge. They are so huge they take up half the sky and we don't even notice they are there. They will not crash into earth, they are very far away, and from what i can gather, it is not gravity but rather an electro-magnetic force and I guess this is what's causing earthquakes etc.
If anyone is interested in seeing photos, videos and learning more, join the FB group Nibiru Followers Anonymous. Tons of photos uploaded daily from all over the world.
So I was brushing up on Antioch. Of course, all the Antiochuses ruled the Syrian Greek Empire from there, but the real kicker is apparently, the first place where Gentile Xtians lived in large numbers and called themselves Xtians who had replaced the Judeans as G-d's chosen people was in Antioch!
This would go a long way in explaining why all these earthquakes which will destroy Edom and Constantinople began in Antioch. The Aramaic word in the Zohar for Turkey seems to be named for Constantine. Is this based on the Targum Yonatan on Bilaam's last prophesy?
Chana, Rav Fish emphasised that it meant widespread destruction, not complete annihilation, which has happened in both countries. In any case we are supposed to expect Moshiach every single day. If any kind of information discourages you, it's best not to geula watch and just focus on avodat Hashem bepashtut.
Dov: I did some research.... seems that the city of Izmir in Turkey was formerly known as Pergamon. According to xtian texts, Pergamon is the ''Throne of the Satan''. This city Izmir was hit by the quake, on the same day that the Grammy's decided to dedicate their Awards show to the Satan.
Don't know who is this person, but copied from "Keitz Meguleh" blog.
Simply fascinating. And this was written 15 years ago...
Shiur Yemot HaMoshiach
It appears that my prior post, based on my intellectual curiousity of the numbers brought at the beginning of Parshat Tazria, contains a deep sod. It contains within it the number of years called "Gadlut Beit".
Gadlut Beit is a Kabbalistic term, but the Ramchal brings it down to simple terms that it covers 2 time periods:
Matan Torah Yemot HaMoshiach We start at 1050 (21 * 50) years.
The years of the first two Batei Mikdash:
410 + 420 = 830, but Bayit Sheini, according to 1 opinion, stood 421 years.
So 831 years.
1050 - 831 = 219
But Matan Torah counts as a year. So that makes 218.
And we should really start at 6001, since the implication of Tazria is 6000 years for mankind to repair these 1050 years, and Adam HaRishon was born in year 2.
So 6001 - 218 = 5783.
So 5783 to the end of the 6th millenium is Yemot HaMoshiach, per this sod and the definition provided by the Ramchal.
So too this is the sod of what the GR"A wrote in chapter 1 of his commentary on Sifra DiTzniuta that the Shiur (length) of Yemot HaMoshiach is the Shiur of Ateret HaYesod.
Background: Yesod is divided in to 3 equal parts (See Etz Chaim). The first 2 are called Yesod, and the last 3rd is called Ateret HaYesod.
The Pshat from the GR"A seems to be that Yemot HaMoshiach will be (if we do not merit earlier, i.e. B'Itah) in the last third of the 6th 9thmillenium, i.e. 5666.66-6000. One could explain (as I had thought) that the GR"A was simply stating that the Keitz B'Itah would not be before the year 5666. But rather the GR"A was referring to the exact beginning of Yemot HaMoshiach, 2/3 the way through the Steps of Moshiach, which is the same year.
To respond to what Chana said: Rebbe Nachman said that after Gog and Magog nothing would be left of Russia but a tree and a hill. We have no idea how it's going to happen, Hash-m knows a lot more than we do and He can do anything. It certainly doesn't have to unfurl in a way that fits our imagination or knowledge or understanding of the laws of nature. Hash-m creates nature, nature is only an illusion to give us free will. The mitzvah is to hope for and expect Moshiach every day. Bottom line: It WILL happen, and it WILL happen suddenly and take us all by surprise-meaning, we will have the free will to believe that everything is continuing in the world derech hateva, business as usual. But at a certain point, Moshiach won't be here, and the next moment, he will be here.
Dov: In response to what you wrote: "Is this based on the Targum Yonatan on Bilaam's last prophesy?" Someone mentioned to me that it is. But I can't remember anymore than that. But that is also the Parsha of the Kochav Yaakov so it's all coming together.
Hi Devorah, For some reason I can't access the shiur by Rav Fish that you posted. Where else can I find it, or can you summarize his main points? Thank you.
ReplyDeleteHe's saying that earthquakes precede Geula.
ReplyDeleteGog u Magog is divided into 3 parts: WW1, WW2 and third part to come. There was also a big earthquake in Turkey in WW2.
As Tehillim says "the mountains will fall into the sea"
Thats just from my memory - maybe I've missed some important things, but basically he thinks this quake is preceding the Geula 5783.
Please G-d let it be true. Rav Fish is pretty reliable I have to say.
Thank you Devorah. Who is Rav Fish?
ReplyDeleteRav Fish is very well known, you can find a lot of his gematriot and other Geula stuff on Yeranen Yaakov's Blog.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Devorah.
ReplyDeleteRav Fish also said the quake would hit in the early morning, which it did.
ReplyDeleteJust for everyone's info, here is a link to the 1939 quake in Turkey at the beginning of WW2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Erzincan_earthquake
Also see: http://yeranenyaakov.blogspot.com/2022/11/calculations-and-populations.html about Rosh Hodesh Shevat.
ReplyDeleteNote from Yaak that the halacha is according to Beit Hillel that the New Year for trees is on Tu Bishvat - not Rosh Hodesh Shevat - and therefore everything gets pushed off to Tu Bishvat. Hence, the earthquake.
Yes, but why would earthquake Dinim be unleashed on a New Year for fruit trees or for parnassah for tzaddiqim.
DeleteI'm surprised there was no mention about Shabbetai Tzvi in relation to Turkey. I believe I heard gilgulim often come back in the [approximate] locales they were previously, and that that's why so much has been going on recently in Ukraine - because of what took place there in the Holocaust. So maybe the same principles have been activated now in Turkey, hundreds of years after the Shabbetai Tzvi fervor.
ReplyDeleteM.M.
How close was the epicenter to the ruins of Antioch?
ReplyDeleteThank you to commenter L.L. on Dov's blog for this extra translation from the video.
ReplyDeleteRav Fish shlita:
Filling in the gaps not translated in the video, approximately:
עַל-כֵּן לֹא-נִירָא, בְּהָמִיר אָרֶץ; וּבְמוֹט הָרִים, בְּלֵב יַמִּים.
The Metzudat David says that when the earth passes from quiet to shaking and the mountains fall into the depths of the sea this is a sign of Gog and its downfall.
When will it occur?
The perek continues:
יִרְעֲשׁוּ הָרִים בְּגַאֲוָתוֹ סֶלָה.
ה נָהָר--פְּלָגָיו, יְשַׂמְּחוּ עִיר-אֱלֹהִים; קְדֹשׁ, מִשְׁכְּנֵי עֶלְיוֹן.
ו אֱלֹהִים בְּקִרְבָּהּ, בַּל-תִּמּוֹט; יַעְזְרֶהָ אֱלֹהִים, לִפְנוֹת בֹּקֶר.
[The Rav emphasises with his voice lifnot boker, in the early hours of the morning]. That's when it will start
On yud beShvat, he spoke at length about the comet that is approaching our planet.
The earthquake was 7.8 on the Richter scale, shows the connection of shvii and motzai shvii, Ben David Ba.
The gematria of reidat adama gedola, a big earthquake, is 5783 (with the colel)
Someone (didn't catch who) brought that before Bnot Lot gave birth to the root of Moshiach, Sdom was overturned, because before Moshiach comes the mountains will be torn asunder and fall in the water, as is said in Tehillim and that this is the beginning of the war of Gog and Magog.
Harokeach says in parshat vayera that that is the reason for Sdom being overturned, that is the order, first of all an earthquake, and then Moshiach was born.
The connection to TuBiShvat is that this is the time that Malchus matzmicha umorida, causes growth and brings down (bracha, rain), molida (?) begets, ... we see the birth of xxx, of malchus, of Moshiach, (a bit unclear, but that's the general idea).
The Zohar Hakadosh says that the root of all earthquakes in the world is in Tsion.
Earthquakes in the world are a sign that Malchus in the world is about to change.
Everything that is happening, the place, the time, the minute, explicit psukim that are happening before our very eyes, as too divrei chazal.
Dov: the quake was very close to Antioch
ReplyDeletehttp://www.fides.org/en/news/73382-ASIA_TURKEY_Antioch_the_earthquake_destroys_mosques_and_churches_Catholic_parish_welcomes_displaced_people
Rav Fish adds:
ReplyDeleteIn short, from the Zohar, don't expect to see the feet of the geula etc until Turkey and Russia (both countries explicitly named) are destroyed (doesn't mean complete annihilation, but widespread destruction). Immediately after this there will be a sign, ot, ... a star from yaakov.
If Nibiru is a dark dwarf star, it will pass earth perpendicular to earth's revolution around the Sun, coming from above the Arctic Circle or below Antarctica. If it comes from any other angle that is not perpendicular, we would already see major perturbations in Keplar's Laws of Planetary motion from gravitational force vectors in the plane of the planets' revolutions around the Sun. We would already detect that R³/T² ≠ A Constant.
DeleteIt seems we are very far off from turkey and russia being destroyed. If it was Ukraine, I would call that destruction. Unfortunately, if we have to wait for turkey and russia to be destroyed in even a small way, we may not have Moshiach this year, 5783 :(
DeleteI've been watching Nibiru videos and reading up and I can tell you now that it is here, and it has it's own planets and moons. It is a second solar system.
ReplyDeleteIf you watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHyre2gFVXI [two minute video]
it explains how to see these planets and moons. They are right in your face and huge. They are so huge they take up half the sky and we don't even notice they are there. They will not crash into earth, they are very far away, and from what i can gather, it is not gravity but rather an electro-magnetic force and I guess this is what's causing earthquakes etc.
If anyone is interested in seeing photos, videos and learning more, join the FB group Nibiru Followers Anonymous. Tons of photos uploaded daily from all over the world.
I wish that we are in the last trimester...
ReplyDeleteChana: things happen in the blink of an eye. We are in the process and it has begun. Stay positive.
ReplyDeleteRe: Antioch, here's an article of a missing Jewish couple from there, R"L. And Torah scrolls being taken out from a shul there:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.algemeiner.com/2023/02/07/elderly-jewish-couple-missing-after-earthquakes-rock-turkey/
So I was brushing up on Antioch. Of course, all the Antiochuses ruled the Syrian Greek Empire from there, but the real kicker is apparently, the first place where Gentile Xtians lived in large numbers and called themselves Xtians who had replaced the Judeans as G-d's chosen people was in Antioch!
ReplyDeleteThis would go a long way in explaining why all these earthquakes which will destroy Edom and Constantinople began in Antioch. The Aramaic word in the Zohar for Turkey seems to be named for Constantine. Is this based on the Targum Yonatan on Bilaam's last prophesy?
Chana, Rav Fish emphasised that it meant widespread destruction, not complete annihilation, which has happened in both countries. In any case we are supposed to expect Moshiach every single day. If any kind of information discourages you, it's best not to geula watch and just focus on avodat Hashem bepashtut.
ReplyDeleteDov: I did some research.... seems that the city of Izmir in Turkey was formerly known as Pergamon. According to xtian texts, Pergamon is the ''Throne of the Satan''. This city Izmir was hit by the quake, on the same day that the Grammy's decided to dedicate their Awards show to the Satan.
ReplyDeleteAll of this can be Googled and verified.
Don't know who is this person, but copied from "Keitz Meguleh" blog.
DeleteSimply fascinating. And this was written 15 years ago...
Shiur Yemot HaMoshiach
It appears that my prior post, based on my intellectual curiousity of the numbers brought at the beginning of Parshat Tazria, contains a deep sod. It contains within it the number of years called "Gadlut Beit".
Gadlut Beit is a Kabbalistic term, but the Ramchal brings it down to simple terms that it covers 2 time periods:
Matan Torah
Yemot HaMoshiach
We start at 1050 (21 * 50) years.
The years of the first two Batei Mikdash:
410 + 420 = 830, but Bayit Sheini, according to 1 opinion, stood 421 years.
So 831 years.
1050 - 831 = 219
But Matan Torah counts as a year. So that makes 218.
And we should really start at 6001, since the implication of Tazria is 6000 years for mankind to repair these 1050 years, and Adam HaRishon was born in year 2.
So 6001 - 218 = 5783.
So 5783 to the end of the 6th millenium is Yemot HaMoshiach, per this sod and the definition provided by the Ramchal.
So too this is the sod of what the GR"A wrote in chapter 1 of his commentary on Sifra DiTzniuta that the Shiur (length) of Yemot HaMoshiach is the Shiur of Ateret HaYesod.
Background: Yesod is divided in to 3 equal parts (See Etz Chaim). The first 2 are called Yesod, and the last 3rd is called Ateret HaYesod.
The Pshat from the GR"A seems to be that Yemot HaMoshiach will be (if we do not merit earlier, i.e. B'Itah) in the last third of the 6th 9thmillenium, i.e. 5666.66-6000. One could explain (as I had thought) that the GR"A was simply stating that the Keitz B'Itah would not be before the year 5666. But rather the GR"A was referring to the exact beginning of Yemot HaMoshiach, 2/3 the way through the Steps of Moshiach, which is the same year.
גילוי at 4/13/2008 05:21:00 PM
Antioch- Cradle of Xtianity
ReplyDeleteThank you for that last Anonymous, I remember that blog very well. Wow is all I can say.
ReplyDeleteAnother earthquake felt in Israel but no damage reported
ReplyDeleteTo respond to what Chana said: Rebbe Nachman said that after Gog and Magog nothing would be left of Russia but a tree and a hill. We have no idea how it's going to happen, Hash-m knows a lot more than we do and He can do anything. It certainly doesn't have to unfurl in a way that fits our imagination or knowledge or understanding of the laws of nature. Hash-m creates nature, nature is only an illusion to give us free will. The mitzvah is to hope for and expect Moshiach every day. Bottom line: It WILL happen, and it WILL happen suddenly and take us all by surprise-meaning, we will have the free will to believe that everything is continuing in the world derech hateva, business as usual. But at a certain point, Moshiach won't be here, and the next moment, he will be here.
ReplyDeleteDov: In response to what you wrote: "Is this based on the Targum Yonatan on Bilaam's last prophesy?"
ReplyDeleteSomeone mentioned to me that it is. But I can't remember anymore than that.
But that is also the Parsha of the Kochav Yaakov so it's all coming together.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-02-08-un-secretary-general-warns-world-war-ukraine.html#
ReplyDeleteMajor sign of Moshiach’s arrival coming now
ReplyDeletehttps://www.itv.com/news/channel/2023-02-07/once-in-a-lifetime-green-comet-passes-by-earth-for-first-time-in-50000-years
Some day, someone will be correct
ReplyDeletehttps://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/2164119/harav-edelstein-the-earthquake-in-turkey-was-a-message-for-us.html
ReplyDeleteNote re: Izmir - Shabbetai Tzvi was from there (aka Smyrna).
ReplyDelete