Tuesday, December 10, 2024

Who Are You Kidding?

I just started listening to this.... he begins by speaking about the fact that often we have friends and family members who have no interest in doing Teshuva, and what we can do about this..... but that is just the introduction.   He then changes tack and begins to talk about the person he finds most interesting in the book of Bereishis.... and that person is..... Eisav !

So even though I'm only at the beginning of this shiur, I knew everyone would want to hear what he has to say about Eisav, as we've heard the opinion of several different Rabbis, as well as bloggers and commenters.... let's see what Rabbi Anava thinks.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Very interesting !

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP8avJJYP2I

Devorah said...

Thank you, that's a great short shiur.
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Anonymous said...

R’ Anava seems to be saying something very different than R’ Kessin. R’ Anava says Esav comes from the world of Tohu, chaos, driven only by emotions and no restrictions. If that’s the case, how can he be responsible for a tikkun in this world? Rav Kessin’s Tov She’b’Esav doing teshuva concept would not apply - isn’t that correct? I find this lecture very interesting, especially R’ Anava’s introduction. I am trying to do teshuva and I want to make aliyah but my husband is not on that same page. We all have some Esav inside of us, I agree. Some of us have a very strong yetzer hara and a difficult mission. How do we bring people like that closer to the Torah? It’s something I’m personally grappling with.

Devorah said...

R' Anava was saying that Rivka loved Eisav and she was only trying to help him.

Yes he said we all have an "Eisav" in us, but we can all do teshuva, we always have that option, but even in his Anava family there are those who are far away from a Torah life. That's the reality for most of us who have done some kind of teshuva.

I didn't hear anything that made me think that Rabbi Kessin's tov sh'b'Eisav would not apply to Eisav himself, just the opposite.

So I came away from his shiur with a totally different view to the one you have.
And I've stopped worrying about a few people who are close to me who may not be doing the things I wish they would do..... we all have a different timeline and different challenges, as you say.

When Moshiach comes, the entire world will be Israel, and Israel itself will be Jerusalem, the centre of the world. So I don't see the need to worry so much, everything will work out in the end.