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"Before the world of truth can come, the world of lies must disappear" - Rabbi Avraham Yitzchak HaCohen Kook
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I wonder if people are on vacation. No comments to this remarkable shiur. OR is this the UN discriminating (reducing ability to find some bloggers) against Israeli centered bloggers?
Wonder of wonders?
I don't know, it's very strange, comments just dried up at the same time Google stopped letting us know they were there.
Maybe people don't think this is a remarkable shiur. These are concepts that R' Kessin has explored many times before. He has said many times that Obama was tasked with rectifying Ishmael and Edom,but that he failed, and that his Gematria is "Mashiach" ... but also "Nachash".
He has also spoken at great length of Trump as a Messianic figure of Edom.
So, I'm not sure what the chidush is in his latest shiur.
He brought it all together. I thought it was a fantastic shiur.
I think rabbi Kessin maybe is saying that he is Moshiach ben Yoseph and now Moshiach ben Dovid is ready to come.
Jut to clarify......you think Rabbi Kessin thinks that he is Moshiach ben Yosef??
If that is what you were saying, I don't know how you came to that conclusion and I don't agree at all. There is nothing that he said that would make me think that, and even though I don't personally know Rabbi Kessin, I'm pretty sure he'd be horrified that someone thought he was saying that.
Why should he be horrified? Moshiach is a man of flesh and blood. Why are many people waiting around for some angel to fall out of heaven to save us?
I do not know how one comes to the conclusion that Rabbi Kessin thinks that Trump is Moshiach ben Yoisef. However, even one of his Talmudim came to that conclusion. The rabbi seemed surprised and bewildered before explaining that he does NOT believe that.
This is a long series and you can't just jump in the middle of it and figure out everything that he is discussing.
Hezqi.
He doesn't think Trump is MBY, he said that [obviouslly] Moshiach is a Jew.
Year after year we witness the parade of absurdities. Now we have four Messiahs!!! Ad matay Rav ? A.
Why would anyone, anyone think that MBY is a non-Jew? What is wrong with people who have no idea what they're talking about saying things from out of the air. What Rabbi Kessin was saying is that Moshiach means annointed, and that Trump might be the annointed by H' as a moshiach of Edom to rectify all of Esav's/Edom's sins, now at the end of days.
I did listen Devorah. I just did not comment. This shiur is good and I think I'm just familiar with these concepts etc.
Anonymous @ 9;02pm - Not a great idea to write that a man of Rabbi Kessin's quality is speaking absurdities. I'd rethink that if I were you.
Before criticizing the rav, many of you need to learn a little more Navi. In sefer Yechezkel Hiram melech Tzur (Tyre) is referred to as "Kruv Meshech". He was described this way due to how he aided Shlomo Hamelech in building bayis rishon. It obviously doesnt mean he's THE mashiach but a messianic figure.
I'm sorry but before throwing around the word k'firah you should learn a little more Navi. In sefer Yechezkel Hiram melech Tzur (Tyre) is referred to as Kruv Meshech. He was described this way due to how he aided Shlomo Hamelech in building bayis rishon. It obviously doesnt mean he's THE mashiach but a messianic figure.
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