Thursday, July 5, 2012

Will the Real Moshiach Stand Up ?


Dov Bar-Leib said...

Kol HaKavod for bringing forth this excellent lecture. Rav Garelik is so clear and concise. One could easily follow him with a precise outline. Two things struck me as he spoke about how Ovadia a ger from Edom could speak about the downfall of Edom and how David could conquer Moav because his Great-grandmother was from Moav. 1. Rav Garelik is an Italian who can speak about the destruction of Mt. Esav (Vesuvius) 2. If David conquered Moav, who will conquer the modern day stateless Arabs who are mostly from Ammon since so many crossed from Jordan between 1917 and 1938 from Amman? How will they be dealt with? I believe one of the nevi'im spoke about the downfall of Ammon. I will look into it.

Yet, Rav Garelik speaks so clearly about Mashiach ben David. It is interesting that while the Rambam wrote nothing about Mashiach ben Ephraim, the Vilna Gaon had a lot to say about Mashiach ben Ephraim. Apparently there are exact halakhot about Mashiach ben David while Mashiach ben Ephraim is hidden in mystery. So only a master in kabbalah such as the Vilna Gaon can speak about ben Ephraim while our greates halakhacist, the Rambam, can write extensively about Mashiach ben David.

joshwaxman said...

fine! i admit it.

satisfied now?


anton said...

like the sun that stand up will be moshiach stand up,which means that sun does not move but the earth does...move or turn its face to see the sun,the moshiach.So the moashiach does not need to stand up,but the world...turn to him.Can the world do that? Maybe its time which may be now but we done know when the sun shows in the morning or the earth moves or turn to see the sun.Do we know what the time is? We know that the darkness is loosing and the world is awakening but is the world seeing the sun,light,moshiach?

anton said...

jewish people will be like moshiach like the candle fire is like the sun fire, is the candle fire like the sun or the sun like the candle fire? but isnt the fire in every men? so all the flames are like the sun's flame or moshiach. Does that mean that moshiach is the fire in every men.The answer is yes...because the world is there because the sun is and if the sun is not there the world will not be also

bracha said...

There lived a great Rabbi about two hundred years ago, the father of Chassidut. He was called the Baal Shem Tov.
Shiratdevorah has many true stories about him as well as things he would teach etc.
One teaching of the Baal Shem Tov goes something like this:
In the order of The Creation of our world, Day followed Night. [Night was created first].
This is to teach us, that:
Just as night precedes day, so too, Moshiach ben David, the true, righteous Messiah will appear and - after all of the suffering of the Jewish People, which is compared to Night - he will usher in an everlasting era of Peace. This is what we call Day. (Day/Light alludes to Goodness).