Yesterday I made a disparaging comment about Trump's choice of Mike Huckabee as the new US Ambassador to Israel. I have now deleted that comment I made.
Seems I was wrong to jump to conclusions.
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Yes. Hoping this is Emes as that's what Hashem has planned. But could be the home of the ' watered down jews' the judeo xtian home. To them it's all the same I think. -leah
Also I thought it pretty clear Persia Edom would go head to head ALREADY. But now I see this may be the real match to start the fire. Meaning Judeo xtian pushing out Yishmael. -leah
So Huckabee believes that EY belongs to the Jews, and he wants to convert us, chalila, in our homeland. That is not a contradiction. Anyone who wants to nazerene a Jew hates Jews.
Tomer Devorah's extremely jaundiced view of Huckabee! https://palmtreeofdeborah.blogspot.com/2024/11/a-deadly-trap-is-about-to-be-sprung.html There is a constant trickle of fanatical Xtians who are being won over and convert to become sincere Torah Jews. Maybe Huckabee can be won over to become a Ger Tzedek or non-Jubilee Ger Toshav. By living in Israel and constantly visiting Judea and Samaria and rubbing shoulders with the Torah religious with whom he gets on well, Huckabee may yet be disabused of his desire to apostasize 144,000 Jews to Yoshki!
Some people think Bibi has changed, even done some teshuva. Is he so evil or is he MBY ? Is everything so confusing that we have such polarizing views of the same man. Everyone has an opinion.
I am one of the people who think Bibi has changed. I see many similarities between him and Donald Trump. Both of them have stepped up to the plate and improved themselves immensely. Both have past histories of things not so savoury. More recently, we saw Trump praying by the Rebbe, and Bibi also is connected to the Rebbe. I think we should not be so quick to call Bibi erev rav, he is a true leader and has shown extreme courage in his actions of late. Kol hakavod.
Jonathan Pollard is no admirer of Netanyahu & holds that he is of the Erev Rav! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpeU2xHTSI0&t=1197s
Whereas Dov bar Leib repeats his long-held belief, with Torah sources, that a flawed Bibi is still morphing in to Moshiach ben Yosef & is combating the Erev Rav, & that Ehud Olmert is still a player! http://yearsofawe.blogspot.com/
And here a plain-talking approach by Lenny Goldberg! https://israelnewstalkradio.com/election-reflection-jewish-warriors-election-reflection-jewish-warriors-the-jewish-truth-bomb-audio/
no one has changed, it's just jewish people changed, more t'shuva, lots of trageties and suffering changed the balance, the hearts of kings in the hands of God!
I've got a problem with Bibi and the rest of the ministers....too many soldiers killed and maimed, too much pandering to the Americans. How can Bibi be an okay guy, doing Tushavah with the American concerns and politics greater than the well - being of our soldiers, citizens, and our nation in our land?
Praying at the Rebbe is a Photo-op nothing more and to lure in the Religious Jews worldwide with these warm and fuzzy moments to Make them feel so lucky they live in the golden calf what we call Today =America .
The Frumies love living in Galut and want everything to go back to normal and that’s why Trump is their man and every photo shoot at the Ohel makes them love America So much more .lol
The state of Israel is a state that will soon give way to the kingdom of Israel .
When Netanyahu dons. kippa and follows the Torah by eating kosher and Shabbat we will then talk .
And when Esau /Trump/America gives way to the Jews fully that this land is theirs with no alterior motive or Peace Plans or the Nonsense Abaraham Accords or the flawed two -state solution or to be swarmed by Christian missionaries than we can talk .
Trump is the one that signed the executive order for the Covid Vaccines he is not be trusted .
Devorah, MBY needs to be a Tzaddik. It is IMPOSSIBLE that it is Bibi! Unless Moshiach is, heaven forbid, so far away that he will be a complete Tzaddik by then....
I read the post at Tomer Devorah. It is very unfortunate that she had a bad experience in her past and has carried her hatred of anything xtian with her, to the extent that any Jew who is happy about Trump's win.... is a moron and dangerous in their views. The commenter who made the most sense to me was "Ed" and she brutally cut him off and dismissed everything he said. I guess we just have diametrically opposing views on this stuff. Not all xtians are bad, most are just misguided and I agree with everything that "Ed" said in his comments.
But seriously, he is an ordained baptist pastor, calls himself an evangelical,
From wiki At age 21, Huckabee was a staffer for televangelist James Robison.[14] Robison commented, "His convictions shape his character and his character will shape his policies. His whole life has been shaped by moral absolutes."[14] Prior to his political career, he served as pastor at Immanuel Baptist Church in Pine Bluff, Arkansas, from 1980 to 1986, and the Beech Street First Baptist Church in Texarkana, from 1986 to 1992.
Regardless of her personal experience, there is a missionary onslaught against Am Yisrael. See the beyneynu.com site. I have researched the area, especially their tactics. I even did part of an online missionary course to that end.. If you haven't you don't know how they operate. The not all xns is a strawman. We're talking about missionary xns engaging in the onslaught against Jews. All missionaries are wicked in sheeps clohting.
Just for example, at the start of the war, I found on a missionary site, their plans to exploit the incredible pain in Israel, an opportunity of once in a lifetime for them they discussed.
To Anon above, This, re US , Trump. Going to the rebi's kever and then demanding that Jews cede parts of EY. Make it make sense. Already, demanding that Israel 'gift' Trump a ceasefire in Lebanon for the start of his term. Friends don't put friends in danger.
I was quite perturbed about those disparaging what you originally said about Mr. Huckabee. He is a fine gentleman and a very religion Christian. There lies the problem. His views about Israel belonging only to bnai Yisrael is very right, good and true. But, as we should all realize by now, there has been an infiltratiion of loads of missionaries in EY and them even purchasing apts and land in EY which is against Torah Law. They have an unusual amount of clout within the government. Friiendship is one thing and an agenda is another. There are excellent websites on this matter such as Jewish Israel and even Xtian Israel (I think that's the title). There is an agenda which is a great part of their theology and that is to get all the Jews to Israel and for them to convert all Jews; otherwise, too bad...... We don't know if Mr. Huckabee who is a pastor or something has these views. The best knowledge you can possibly want on this subject is to go to the website of TomerDevorah.com. She shows videos and goes into great depth in her information; more than anyone or anywhere else. I believe Devorah you are completely correct in your analysis and do not fall prey to the commenters who want you to think that you are wrong. They are wrong. Maybe Mr. Huckabee will pleasantly surprise us and not go along with the evangelical agenda of trying to convert the Jews which is part of their religion!
I had to google Evangelist because I didn't really know what it meant. Basically it means "christian speaker or preacher". You use these terms.... but Jewish people are not educated in xtian terminology. At least, I'm not. The only time I encounter it is when I go to Tomer Devorah's blog.
I guess living in the diaspora, we are not preyed upon as you are in Israel.
Anyway I find the whole subject tiresome and I'm fed up with hearing about it nonstop, as though that's all Israel has to offer : missionaries.
With all the carrying on about missionising - those same people who are bleating repeatedly about it are also bleating about the Jewish organizations who do outreach notably Chabad. Seems they hate Chabad just as much as the notzrim. Then they have the audacity to tell us we're naive and should be making ALIYA. Perhaps better to be in a heimish community in Lakewood than exposing oneself to missionaries in the Holy Land?
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Yes. Hoping this is Emes as that's what Hashem has planned. But could be the home of the ' watered down jews' the judeo xtian home. To them it's all the same I think.
-leah
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Also I thought it pretty clear Persia Edom would go head to head ALREADY. But now I see this may be the real match to start the fire. Meaning Judeo xtian pushing out Yishmael.
-leah
What does that mean Judeo ? There is no such thing, that is their agenda to try and combine the two Chas Veshalom.
So Huckabee believes that EY belongs to the Jews, and he wants to convert us, chalila, in our homeland. That is not a contradiction.
Anyone who wants to nazerene a Jew hates Jews.
Who said he wants to convert us? That is fear mongering propaganda. Please show proof of this.
Tomer Devorah's extremely jaundiced view of Huckabee!
https://palmtreeofdeborah.blogspot.com/2024/11/a-deadly-trap-is-about-to-be-sprung.html
There is a constant trickle of fanatical Xtians who are being won over and convert to become sincere Torah Jews. Maybe Huckabee can be won over to become a Ger Tzedek or non-Jubilee Ger Toshav. By living in Israel and constantly visiting Judea and Samaria and rubbing shoulders with the Torah religious with whom he gets on well, Huckabee may yet be disabused of his desire to apostasize 144,000 Jews to Yoshki!
Yikes.
Again, I'm waiting to hear what Rabbi Kessin has to say about all this.
https://vinnews.com/2024/11/13/huckabee-i-believe-israeli-sovereignty-can-be-applied-to-judea-and-samaria/
We still have an erav rav government that doesn't want a Jewish Israel....
Some people think Bibi has changed, even done some teshuva. Is he so evil or is he MBY ? Is everything so confusing that we have such polarizing views of the same man. Everyone has an opinion.
I am one of the people who think Bibi has changed.
I see many similarities between him and Donald Trump.
Both of them have stepped up to the plate and improved themselves immensely. Both have past histories of things not so savoury.
More recently, we saw Trump praying by the Rebbe, and Bibi also is connected to the Rebbe.
I think we should not be so quick to call Bibi erev rav, he is a true leader and has shown extreme courage in his actions of late. Kol hakavod.
What courage? Bombing everyone?
Jonathan Pollard is no admirer of Netanyahu & holds that he is of the Erev Rav!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpeU2xHTSI0&t=1197s
Whereas Dov bar Leib repeats his long-held belief, with Torah sources, that a flawed Bibi is still morphing in to Moshiach ben Yosef & is combating the Erev Rav, & that Ehud Olmert is still a player!
http://yearsofawe.blogspot.com/
And here a plain-talking approach by Lenny Goldberg!
https://israelnewstalkradio.com/election-reflection-jewish-warriors-election-reflection-jewish-warriors-the-jewish-truth-bomb-audio/
no one has changed, it's just jewish people changed, more t'shuva, lots of trageties and suffering changed the balance, the hearts of kings in the hands of God!
we have to listen the Torah scholars , that will be easier for us
Was there any talk after all that piano music??
-leah
I've got a problem with Bibi and the rest of the ministers....too many soldiers killed and maimed, too much pandering to the Americans. How can Bibi be an okay guy, doing Tushavah with the American concerns and politics greater than the well - being of our soldiers, citizens, and our nation in our land?
Praying at the Rebbe is a Photo-op nothing more and to lure in the Religious Jews worldwide with these warm and fuzzy moments to
Make them feel so lucky they live in the golden calf what we call
Today =America .
The Frumies love living in Galut and want everything to go back to normal and that’s why Trump is their man and every photo shoot at the Ohel makes them love America So much more .lol
The state of Israel is a state that will soon give way to the kingdom of Israel .
When Netanyahu dons. kippa and follows the Torah by eating kosher and Shabbat we will then talk .
And when Esau /Trump/America gives way to the Jews fully that this land is theirs with no alterior motive or Peace Plans or the Nonsense Abaraham Accords or the flawed two -state solution or to be swarmed by Christian missionaries than we can talk .
Trump is the one that signed the executive order for the Covid Vaccines he is not be trusted .
Devorah, MBY needs to be a Tzaddik. It is IMPOSSIBLE that it is Bibi! Unless Moshiach is, heaven forbid, so far away that he will be a complete Tzaddik by then....
SGK
If anyone wants to do a deep dive into who MBY could be, here are some shiurim that I've blogged:
Rabbi Kessin
https://shiratdevorah.blogspot.com/2017/11/rabbi-kessin-on-moshiach-ben-yosef.html
Parts 1-3
Rabbi Tovia SInger
https://shiratdevorah.blogspot.com/2017/06/who-is-moshiach-ben-yosef.html
Rabbi Palvanov
https://shiratdevorah.blogspot.com/2023/06/moshiach-now-or-never.html
https://shiratdevorah.blogspot.com/2024/05/understanding-mashiach-ben-yosef-part-2.html
https://shiratdevorah.blogspot.com/2024/05/understand-mashiach-ben-yosef-part-3.html
I read the post at Tomer Devorah. It is very unfortunate that she had a bad experience in her past and has carried her hatred of anything xtian with her, to the extent that any Jew who is happy about Trump's win.... is a moron and dangerous in their views.
The commenter who made the most sense to me was "Ed" and she brutally cut him off and dismissed everything he said.
I guess we just have diametrically opposing views on this stuff.
Not all xtians are bad, most are just misguided and I agree with everything that "Ed" said in his comments.
From wiki
Huckabee is an ordained Southern Baptist Pastor noted for his evangelical views,[
From factcheck.org via wiki
But we are sure that a Huckabee spokesperson told us that Gov. Huckabee describes himself as an evangelical Christian.
But seriously, he is an ordained baptist pastor, calls himself an evangelical,
From wiki
At age 21, Huckabee was a staffer for televangelist James Robison.[14] Robison commented, "His convictions shape his character and his character will shape his policies. His whole life has been shaped by moral absolutes."[14] Prior to his political career, he served as pastor at Immanuel Baptist Church in Pine Bluff, Arkansas, from 1980 to 1986, and the Beech Street First Baptist Church in Texarkana, from 1986 to 1992.
Regardless of her personal experience, there is a missionary onslaught against Am Yisrael. See the beyneynu.com site. I have researched the area, especially their tactics. I even did part of an online missionary course to that end.. If you haven't you don't know how they operate. The not all xns is a strawman. We're talking about missionary xns engaging in the onslaught against Jews. All missionaries are wicked in sheeps clohting.
Just for example, at the start of the war, I found on a missionary site, their plans to exploit the incredible pain in Israel, an opportunity of once in a lifetime for them they discussed.
Hitoreri
To Anon above, This, re US , Trump.
Going to the rebi's kever and then demanding that Jews cede parts of EY.
Make it make sense.
Already, demanding that Israel 'gift' Trump a ceasefire in Lebanon for the start of his term.
Friends don't put friends in danger.
Hitoreri
I was quite perturbed about those disparaging what you originally said about
Mr. Huckabee. He is a fine gentleman and a very religion Christian. There lies
the problem. His views about Israel belonging only to bnai Yisrael is very right, good and true. But, as we should all realize by now, there has been an infiltratiion of loads of missionaries in EY and them even purchasing apts and land in EY which is against Torah Law. They have an unusual amount of clout within the government. Friiendship is one thing and an agenda is another.
There are excellent websites on this matter such as Jewish Israel and even
Xtian Israel (I think that's the title). There is an agenda which is a great part of their theology and that is to get all the Jews to Israel and for them to convert all Jews; otherwise, too bad......
We don't know if Mr. Huckabee who is a pastor or something has these views.
The best knowledge you can possibly want on this subject is to go to the website of TomerDevorah.com. She shows videos and goes into great depth in her information; more than anyone or anywhere else.
I believe Devorah you are completely correct in your analysis and do not fall prey to the commenters who want you to think that you are wrong. They are wrong.
Maybe Mr. Huckabee will pleasantly surprise us and not go along with the evangelical agenda of trying to convert the Jews which is part of their religion!
I had to google Evangelist because I didn't really know what it meant. Basically it means "christian speaker or preacher". You use these terms.... but Jewish people are not educated in xtian terminology. At least, I'm not. The only time I encounter it is when I go to Tomer Devorah's blog.
I guess living in the diaspora, we are not preyed upon as you are in Israel.
Anyway I find the whole subject tiresome and I'm fed up with hearing about it nonstop, as though that's all Israel has to offer : missionaries.
With all the carrying on about missionising - those same people who are bleating repeatedly about it are also bleating about the Jewish organizations who do outreach notably Chabad. Seems they hate Chabad just as much as the notzrim. Then they have the audacity to tell us we're naive and should be making ALIYA. Perhaps better to be in a heimish community in Lakewood than exposing oneself to missionaries in the Holy Land?
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