Wednesday, May 15, 2024

Understanding Mashiach ben Yosef Part 3

Rabbi Efraim Palvanov

Part 1 can be found here

Part 2 here

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

Are we expecting now MBD or MBY to come first ?

Ron

Margolis said...

Until these guys incorporate the Ben Aaron from Qumran and understand why no one at the eschatalogical banquet described in the scrolls sit until this one enters(not even MBD) and sits they are missing the point. Shechinah/malchut shebe Tiferet

Anonymous said...

Could General Ofer Winter possibly be MbY? He was fired from the IDF because he attributed the success of Israel's battles to Hashem, and other such "unacceptable " talk and views to the leadership of the secular IDF brass.

Does anyone else recall the other "General Winter?" Not a person of course, but referred to as such. The most bitter winter in 100 years that was pivotal in defeating the Nazi German army in WWII when they attacked Russia. The Hand of Hashem behind nature.
Is there a divine hint/connection/sign here?

C S

Anonymous said...

Iranian Majlis Member Dr. Ahmad Bakhshayesh Ardestani In Interview With Iran's Roydad 24 News: 'Iran Is Slowly Making Preparations To Announce That It Has A Nuclear Bomb'
https://www.memri.org/reports/iranian-majlis-member-dr-ahmad-bakhshayesh-ardestani-interview-irans-roydad-24-news-iran

Anonymous said...

What’s with the sudden obsession with MBY? There are different opinions on MBY and it’s very likely he already fulfilled his role. MBD can come today!

-Yitzchok

Anonymous said...

He doesn’t mention anything about the techiyas hameisim deadline of 2029/5790 in the video lecture. We only know techiyas hameisim MUST come by then because the Zohar says techiyas hameisim will start no later than 210 years before the year 6000. As the previous comment said, that means Moshiach comes any moment know so that techiyas hameisim happens before then.

-Rochel

Anonymous said...

complaints complaints... how about thank you Rabbi Palvanov...

thank you Rabbi Palvanov

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Anonymous said...

Mashiach will come
When HaShem decides and only HaShem. Not who we think Mashiach is or when Mashiach is supposed to show up or if We passed the deadline or all the signs and prophecies have been fulfilled All this is irrelevant because HaShem makes
The final decision whom and when and how . B”H

Anonymous said...

Stop making predictions
No rabbi or rebbe or any person in history has ever predicted who Mashiach is .ever ! because it’s Hashems final call and decision not ours . Mashiach is from
Judah all this MBY than MBD is pure speculation and does not need to come like this .

Anonymous said...

Eliyahu Hanavi will announce who Mashiach is .

Anonymous said...

MBY can also be a generation .

Yaakov CH.

Anonymous said...

Efraim Palvanov is a blessing from
HaShem and so are many other rabbis and Torah speakers online and Print . that feed us with all this goodness of information that we so
need at this juncture in history .G-D bless them all .

Yaakov CH.

Anonymous said...

Whoever just said that Moshiach will come not by a deadline (someone anonymous wrote it) is very wrong. If you can’t trust the Zohar, than you can’t trust any Torah prophechy. The Zohar guarantees that techiyas hameisim will start before 5790. The Zohar is never wrong on a positive prophechy. He’s the authority on all Kabbalah.

-Shira

Anonymous said...

Shira,

And if techiyas HaMeisim hasn't happened by 5790 (CVS) then will you say the zohar is wrong and all the torah prophecies are wrong, maybe we slightly miscalculated the datess (We did that at the time of Purim and even at the Egel - both led to problems). Perhaps we don't know what the zohar is referring to, a spiritual re-birth is more important than the physical one. Also we must never forget that Hashem has authority over everyone and everything and Hashem can decide to do whatever he wants.

Gershon

Anonymous said...

Have some Emunas chachamim. Also, suggest learning the Zohar for yourself. The Zohar was clearly talking about actual techiyas hameisim. The Zohar is never wrong (and we’re not off with dates… it’s actually 5784 now… if anything it’s later) on a positive prophecy and it would be impossible for the Zohar to be wrong. Hashem doesn’t change the words of the greatest tzaddikim’s nevuos.

-Rochel

LondonMale said...

Reb Palvanov is a captivating speaker and author.
I highly recommend his books.

He has never claimed to have all the answers.
So he will not cover every subject matter or every detail.

Margolis said...

Only a ben Aaron has full mastery of the holy name in order to pull off techiyas hamesim. That person may have a soul connection to Daveed ha Melech but they would have to come in the priestly lineage. Also this connecting the three kings in talmudic prophecy to leaders of present day countries is faulty. Again these are Djinn elemental kings and again yes Shlomo could work with those beings so we do need that connection to rebuild the true eternal temple here in America. The cloud hovered over 770 with the underground prayer vault but they were stopped b4 they did any damage to their souls with wayward magic. May the true cloud bring Peace to the entire Earth.

Anonymous said...

BH
What are you saying, what language are you talking in, and being a Lubavitcher I’m not sure what you are referring too.

Margolis said...

Qumran explains the lineages and the Ben Aaron versus the mby and mbd scenarios. The rebbe said the third temple would appear in America first. Those diggers were planning some prayer magic with the chthonic powers elementals needed for techiyas hamesim. Must have gotten hold of old manuscripts or figured out the taninm in Tikkunim haZohar. Yes we are in a phoenix cycle so the guy was getting close. This is the liminal realm between epochs. The Rebbe knew wecwere in it. The techiyas began on the yahrzeit of Rashi 5751 and he knew it. Tonight gevurah sheb' Netzach

Anonymous said...

The GRA predicted 5751 200 years before the Rebbe did .

Anonymous said...

Vilna Gaon said - that the Ingathering of the exiles would occur 3/4 through the 6th Millennium (either in 5750 or in 5751) because high noon on the 6th day is 3/4 of the way through Yom Shishi, and at that moment Shofar blowers would ascend hills and mountains in Eretz Yisrael to blow a Tekiah to call Israel in from her fields to prepare for Shabbat. Until High noon on Friday, one could do mundane work and labor as one did the other days of the week (Sunday - Thursday), but at high noon, only work which was necessary to prepare for Shabbat could be done. The reason for the possible discrepancy between 5750 and 5751 as to whether the ingathering would begin in which of those two years is because the Gaon was not 100% sure on whether the 6000 years of Olam HaZeh would end at the end of the year 5999 or at the end of the year 6000. If Olam HaZeh ends at the end of the year 5999, then the 3/4 mark was in the year 5750. If it ended at the end of the year 6000, then the 3/4 mark was in the year 5751. the beginning of Mincha Gedolah of the 6th Millennium or 12:30pm on Yom Shishi after which Mashiach could only come b'itah since all the Achishena dates had passed. So doing the calculation, that date was either Rosh Chodesh Av 5770 or Rosh Chodesh Av 5771.

Anonymous said...

The Rebbe was the potential Moshiach for that generation.
I don't think that is a controversial opinion, many said it at the time not just Lubavitchers. he achieved so much for the post WW2 generation and brought so many yidden back to the fold.

AMI

Anonymous said...

Potential is not Mashiach .

Devorah said...

There is a potential Mashiach in every generation, if we deserve it.

Just to let you all know, negative comments towards tzadikim will be deleted.

Anonymous said...

4When you come to the land the Lord, your God, is giving you, and you possess it and live therein, and you say, "I will set a king over myself, like all the nations around me," ידכִּֽי־תָבֹ֣א אֶל־הָאָ֗רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֨ר יְהֹוָ֤ה אֱלֹהֶ֨יךָ֙ נֹתֵ֣ן לָ֔ךְ וִֽירִשְׁתָּ֖הּ וְיָשַׁ֣בְתָּה בָּ֑הּ וְאָֽמַרְתָּ֗ אָשִׂ֤ימָה עָלַי֙ מֶ֔לֶךְ כְּכָל־הַגּוֹיִ֖ם אֲשֶׁ֥ר סְבִֽיבֹתָֽי:
15you shall set a king over you, one whom the Lord, your God, chooses; from among your brothers, you shall set a king over yourself; you shall not appoint a foreigner over yourself, one who is not your brother.

Anonymous said...

Regardless who we think Mashiach is or should be only HaShem makes the final decision .

Margolis said...

Eliiyahu incarnated at the Pesach 5750 thru ibbur. On the yahrzeit of Rashi tammuz 29, 5751 during the total eclipse of the sun recorded in the ancient mayan dresden codex we entered a new world epoch registered on the Aztec sunstone. The aztec calendar is an echo of the Jewish lunar calendar and natives prophecied a white blood covenanted priestly people would immigrate to America and play a major role in mending what they call the hoop of the nations.

Anonymous said...

Mashiach will be an unknown person not a great rabbi that everyone thinks.

Anonymous said...

There is a potential Mashiach in every generation you are right we just don’t know who it is .

Rabbi Akiva was wrong in Assuming it was Bar Kochba and Schmuel Hanavi had no clue it was David And David had no clue it was himself and no one in his family had any clue either they all thought it was themselves .

Moshe Rabbeinu had no clue either and no one did except his sister when he was born . but when he Moses was A fugitive
For 40-60 years he was forgotten no one had any idea who the redeemer was .

What I am saying is we have no clue only HaShem holds the cards who it is and who he will choose .
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Anonymous said...

Just out of curiosity, from which Sefer are you quoting these statements from.

Anonymous said...

Why don’t we have a Moshiach WhatsApp Group so we can have active discussions anytime? It also would give chizuk to a lot of people

-Elisheva

Devorah said...

Someone tried doing that a while ago and couldn't handle the admin work. It's a lot of work Elisheva but if you want one, go ahead and make one, I'll publicize it here but I won't join up, I have enough Moshiach comments to deal with already :)

Devorah said...

The person with the proposed WhatsApp group: no, I don't want to be delivering phone numbers and I don't want to be involved in any way.

If you want to start a Group just send the details here and I"ll publish them for you and people can join if they want to. That means you need to provide a number and no-one wants to provide their own phone number for obvious reasons, so yes it's a problem. Please leave me out of it.

Anonymous said...

Who cares about who moshiach will be. May he come already !!
Ron

Anonymous said...

According to the Kol HaTor as in this clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIXiOm6HTek&t=4s
the Moshiach ben Yosef can be a woman, the midwives in Egypt and Queen Esther being the Moshiach ben Yosefs of their generations. And even a non-Jew can be a Moshiach ben Yosef says the Gra, Koresh who gave permisiion for the Temple to be rebuilt being the Moshiach ben Yosef of his era: "Thus says the L-rd to His Moshiach, to Koresh...."(Yeshaya 45).Trump may yet be in with a chance!